Wind

[The Great Wallsendo]

Obviously the wind affects the sea state and the sea state has an impact on the fishing...what is classed as a good wind/sea state for fishing the North East coastline?

It's gentle westerlys all week this week.

 

[insanojackson]

Dunno about that but as far as the mull of galloway the wind coming from Hiram H biffs backside on saturday night was no good for anybody, anywhere!



Disgusting!

 

[Charlie_Thompson]

For winter fishing needs East and North in it, or both

 

[Topfly]

This time of year you really need very littlle wind, but if any, westerlies which keeps the sea nice and flat at this side of the north sea. it might be a bit lumpy on the far side. this helps the boat fishing and the shore fishing. oct to feb we need a few good northeasters coupled with long hard frosts for the winter fishing hope this helps. :thumbup:

 

[The Great Wallsendo]

direction

direction

So a westerley would be me looking out to sea with the wind on my back? (at least from the perspective of Whitley Bay/Blyth/Tynemouth etc)

 

[Topfly]

Yes, but if you want to be a bit more precise, buy yourself a compass, they are not too expensive from the camping shops, and they are handy if you fish a lot of areas around the coasts.

 

[willywetegg]

Cracking bit of advice that Jim. Although when we get a westerly, it is predominantly on our back, sometimes when fishing a different mark it can come from your left or right. With a compass you can remember from which direction it was that day and make a note for future reference.

Jim.

 

[The Great Wallsendo]

Cheers Jim and Jim - a compass i shall get...

For winter fishing needs East and North in it, or both

How come's that then?

 

[Topfly]

Exactly Jim, especially in places like newbiggin and hauxly, just looking out to sea.its handy if you find a deep part,not just gully's but sandy patches between rocky areas. When you go back to an area you have logged, it can help you catch fish and save you tackle.

 

[Topfly]

Charlies off at the mo, but if you can imagine a big sea battering the coastline for five or six days and then dying off over two days, that gives the fish a chance to move in very close to the beaches / piers to mop up all the dislodged food . so being ready to fish at exactly the right time with the right baits is the key to success. and the reason you need good hard frosts is so any food like worms and crabs bury themselves deep away from the cold which leaves your baitto the fish.

 

[The Great Wallsendo]

Charlies off at the mo, but if you can imagine a big sea battering the coastline for five or six days and then dying off over two days, that gives the fish a chance to move in very close to the beaches / piers to mop up all the dislodged food . so being ready to fish at exactly the right time with the right baits is the key to success. and the reason you need good hard frosts is so any food like worms and crabs bury themselves deep away from the cold which leaves your baitto the fish.

I see - very scientific this fishing mullarky...not just a case of lob out your worm and hope for the best (fnarr fnarr)

Exactly Jim, especially in places like newbiggin and hauxly, just looking out to sea.its handy if you find a deep part,not just gully's but sandy patches between rocky areas. When you go back to an area you have logged, it can help you catch fish and save you tackle.

Right - I'm confused now - I can understand the compass helping you tell which way the wind is coming in relation to where you are standing/facing etc

But are you also using the compass to help you find a mark? Or is it merely a tool to help you record what the wind was like on a given day at a given place? how would it help tackle loss?

 

[codseeker]

the wind coming from Hiram H biffs backside on saturday night was no good for anybody, anywhere!



Disgusting!

so your saying hes an old farter

 

[willywetegg]

Tony, you can use the compass to log the mark that you have cast to, if as Jim said you find a nice deep water mark it can be very handy.

If it is a mark that you have not fished before you could be casting two or three yards out either way and be on top of some rocks in shallow water, you don't have anything to line up your cast if you are on the open sea so at least you can remember which direction you cast for the next time.

Jim.

 

[border reiver]

wind

wind

I thought this was the shore fishing section, what the hell do you want a compass for. You should know the wind direction and therefore what the sea conditions are likely to be before you go out, and then choose where's likely to fish best using experience gained over the years. where not orienteering here.

 

[willywetegg]

Quite obvious if you know the mark you are fishing.

Jim.

 

[The Great Wallsendo]

Tony, you can use the compass to log the mark that you have cast to, if as Jim said you find a nice deep water mark it can be very handy.

If it is a mark that you have not fished before you could be casting two or three yards out either way and be on top of some rocks in shallow water, you don't have anything to line up your cast if you are on the open sea so at least you can remember which direction you cast for the next time.

Jim.

It all becomes clear now - thanks Jim

One trick I learnt when I was in Cornwall last summer was if you were fishing an area that you didn't have a clue about, go to the local tackle shop with an O/S map and ask them (nicely) to mark on where the hotspots are...

Needless to say I'm itching to get back to Cornwall to try out some of the marks i didn't fish the last time..

I'm going to do the same with Wales this year

 

[border reiver]

Quite obvious if you know the mark you are fishing.

Jim.

Jim i'm not trying to be clever here but i thought the orignal question was about wind & sea conditions in the N.E Area. This is a N.E SEA ANGLING FORUM. If you need to know where to fish in certain conditions i'm sure someone one on the forum will throw a few suggestions after all i thought that's what the forum was for. I honestly can't see the need for a compass shorefishing in your own backyard.

 

[willywetegg]

Not a bother mate, I know where you are coming from lol. A few years ago I would probably have agreed but to my way of thinking now, anything that will help is a bonus.

I have been told about loads of marks but when I have actually got to them and am stood there waiting to cast out I usually find myself thinking am I right here. If you keep trying different spots around the mark you will probably find it eventually. The point we were making about the compass is, when you manage to find the gulley or hole you are looking for then you can take a note of exactly where you are casting and remember it for a future date.

As you said before when you have the experience, gained over the years you can use it but Tony has just come back to fishing and is trying to find out more about it.

As I said earlier, anything that will help to locate a good mark to fish from is a bonus at the moment. Personally I would try just about anything lol.

Jim.

 

[gazzawill]

i agree jim anyting that will help a newcomer / or back on the scene fisher is good advice ' and a compass is always handy in your tackle box/bag incase you get lost to some marks over feilds ect ect. also handy on way back (your head lamp could nack up ect ).so dont be to quick to shout down the humble compass a good idea to carry one
nuff said

 

[border reiver]

Not a bother mate, I know where you are coming from lol. A few years ago I would probably have agreed but to my way of thinking now, anything that will help is a bonus.

I have been told about loads of marks but when I have actually got to them and am stood there waiting to cast out I usually find myself thinking am I right here. If you keep trying different spots around the mark you will probably find it eventually. The point we were making about the compass is, when you manage to find the gulley or hole you are looking for then you can take a note of exactly where you are casting and remember it for a future date.

As you said before when you have the experience, gained over the years you can use it but Tony has just come back to fishing and is trying to find out more about it.

As I said earlier, anything that will help to locate a good mark to fish from is a bonus at the moment. Personally I would try just about anything lol.

Jim.

Fair enough piont taken End AL