Multiplier reel advice

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berwick

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Alright lads. I am thinking of upgrading my gear soon and i am making the leap from fixed spool to multiplier. Only been fishing a short while but have put effort into ironing out my casting so much smoother and more controlled than when i first set out with considerable distance gains. I am after some advice and thoughts on a good multiplier

I will be using the reel for both beach and rough ground work so a reel that while might not excel at either but is pretty good at both. Im thinking 30lbs mono line. Also advice about the benefits of mag reels. Me being a newcomer to the multi would these reels have benefit of greater control?

Been looking at ABU 6500 C3 Mag, Penn 535 mag 2, Diawa SL30SH etc. Leaning towards ABU's offerings at the min

Any thoughts/ advice most appreciated. Cheers
 
Hi matey

Cant go wrong with a second hand saltist 30, swedish built 80s or 90s 7500 or 7000, or an original slosh 30 in cenifugal form for ease of use and unlikely to over run as you adjust to a multiplier.

If your feeling a bit more flush.... the Akios 757 ct with mag control is a wonderful reel or its TFG equivilent (they are made in same factory)

Avoid the more more recent chinese/thai pure fishing era abu 7000`s with mags, as they are made with inferior internal parts. Id also avoid the gold spool slosh`s unless they are magged up as they run fast can be be a bit firey jack with jerky casts.
 
Cheers Geordie. I notice one of your reels is an Abu 7500C3 level wind. How do you find these level wind systems? Obviously as a novice to multiplier use the idea appeals to me but i have read they seriously hamper casting distance. What do you make of them?
 
berwick said:
Alright lads. I am thinking of upgrading my gear soon and i am making the leap from fixed spool to multiplier. Only been fishing a short while but have put effort into ironing out my casting so much smoother and more controlled than when i first set out with considerable distance gains. I am after some advice and thoughts on a good multiplier

I will be using the reel for both beach and rough ground work so a reel that while might not excel at either but is pretty good at both. Im thinking 30lbs mono line. Also advice about the benefits of mag reels. Me being a newcomer to the multi would these reels have benefit of greater control?

Been looking at ABU 6500 C3 Mag, Penn 535 mag 2, Diawa SL30SH etc. Leaning towards ABU's offerings at the min

Any thoughts/ advice most appreciated. Cheers
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Hi,

One of the most difficult thing about moving from a fixed spool to a multiplier is getting a good even lay of line, if you struggle to do this your casting could really suffer.
On that basis I would agree with Geordie_G with the choice of an older 7500 or 7000 with a level wind from ABU, especially with 30lb line.
As you become more proficient it is an easy step by step conversion to remove the level wind then convert to a CT frame later.

Good luck,

TC
 
in terms of like for like against my CT non level wind eqivilents then it does run a tiny bit slower, and as a result casts 10 to 30 yards less depending on the power or conditions. But - this ever so slightly slower running makes it makes it fool proof, very smooth and ideal for windy days and night fishing or for short casts or when casting of slippey rock ends when you can get a bit wonky due to not having a good foot hole.
 
Levelwinds & leader knots don't mix - unless you use tapered leaders. With a 60/70lb leader the knot will often catch on the level wind when casting and worse, it'll often lay the knot right under your thumb when you wind in. Without the level wind you can tuck the knot to one side of the spool before casting, where it won't take a chunk out of your thumb! Wouldn't be as much of an issue with heavy line straight through, but if you were to go on clean beaches you wouldn't want to be using 30lb or so line - something like 15-18lb will catch a lot less tide and get you more distance should you need it - but you'll then need the shock leader.

I'd go along with suggestions of a Slosh, Saltist or even an old 525mag (though they hold a lot less 30lb line) as a good all rounder - start with a bigger one and if necessary get another, smaller reel for the beaches (something like a Daiwa 7HT). Not much of an Abu fan these days - as others have said the current crop of reels are pretty tatty compared to the ones I had back in the early 80s.

Gary :)
 
I've not long switched to a multiplier. I went for a akios 651 CSM (lefty, magged and level wind.) and the reel is great. I haven't had any problems with leader knots so far I use a uni to uni knott on a tapered leader.

I'm thinking about a non level wind reel now but I want a bigger reel and there's only Abu does a left hander so I think I'm gonna have to learn to reel right handed.
 
Thanks to all for the advice.

If its just a case of 10-30 yard loss in distance for casting range vs the benefits Geordie mentioned I might go for that option. I do a fair bit more fishing from rock marks where distance isn't an issue and night time fishing so might be best as suggested to go for this and then get conversion.

Might even get a second reel as I progress with multi (non-level wind) and use this for clean ground with lighter line, keep the level wind for rock/ night and second rod at shorter range.

Nooo Fish are you noticing much difference in the switch from fixed spool? Casting distance/ cranking power etc.
 
Hi Berwick, I live in Beadnell your welcome to come down and try my reels I have a slosh 30, 525 mag, 535, and a 7ht let me know.
 
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Don't rule out the old Abu's

Don't rule out the old Abu's

g-force said:
Levelwinds & leader knots don't mix - unless you use tapered leaders. With a 60/70lb leader the knot will often catch on the level wind when casting and worse, it'll often lay the knot right under your thumb when you wind in. Without the level wind you can tuck the knot to one side of the spool before casting, where it won't take a chunk out of your thumb! Wouldn't be as much of an issue with heavy line straight through, but if you were to go on clean beaches you wouldn't want to be using 30lb or so line - something like 15-18lb will catch a lot less tide and get you more distance should you need it - but you'll then need the shock leader.

I'd go along with suggestions of a Slosh, Saltist or even an old 525mag (though they hold a lot less 30lb line) as a good all rounder - start with a bigger one and if necessary get another, smaller reel for the beaches (something like a Daiwa 7HT). Not much of an Abu fan these days - as others have said the current crop of reels are pretty tatty compared to the ones I had back in the early 80s.

Gary :)
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Couldn't agree more with Gary's reccomendations, but don't rule out the old Abu 7000c, there are still a few good examples on fleabay, and are reasonably priced. You can drop the brakes out as you progress, and with a switch to light oils, can be tuned to cast a very reasonable distance.They also have a proven longevity which some of the new Abu's, and others, can't even approach, defo. stay well away from some of them. Comes with level wind, and as you get better you can remove the levelwind easily, and cheaply. If you can cast one of them to the spool, when filled with a decent 30lb line, you will be a far better man than me ...Gunga din !
( They actually go better with only the line you can cast + a % for safety, you can fill them too much which hampers your distance, and cause blow ups!).:o
Also they maintain there second hand value, should you want to upgrade ?
Go to reels: 7000c big baits, 525 slideys worm and distance.

Get some lessons....I need to !:p
Mel.....
 
berwick said:
Nooo Fish are you noticing much difference in the switch from fixed spool? Casting distance/ cranking power etc.
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I'm not sure about distance mate cos I've done all my fishing at night. I prefer casting a multi over FS though. There's more cranking power in the multi but it takes longer to reel in. It's nice to have the option of both cos my FS is lovely with braid on.

Hope this helps mate.
 
InCodweTrust said:
Couldn't agree more with Gary's reccomendations, but don't rule out the old Abu 7000c, there are still a few good examples on fleabay, and are reasonably priced. You can drop the brakes out as you progress, and with a switch to light oils, can be tuned to cast a very reasonable distance.They also have a proven longevity which some of the new Abu's, and others, can't even approach, defo. stay well away from some of them. Comes with level wind, and as you get better you can remove the levelwind easily, and cheaply. If you can cast one of them to the spool, when filled with a decent 30lb line, you will be a far better man than me ...Gunga din !
( They actually go better with only the line you can cast + a % for safety, you can fill them too much which hampers your distance, and cause blow ups!).:o
Also they maintain there second hand value, should you want to upgrade ?
Go to reels: 7000c big baits, 525 slideys worm and distance.

Get some lessons....I need to !:p
Mel.....
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I just recently serviced an old, original (although it had been converted with a CT bar) 7000c for a friend - it had had a hammering largely from abuse on the boat, the handle was wobbling and the ratchet didn't work properly. After a thorough strip down & clean I was amazed how well the original bearings were still running - they were good as new after re-lubing and everything tightened up nicely again. Just a shame ABU no longer build any of their reels to the same standard:(
 
u must be a rarity moving from fixed spool to multiplier. A lot of my mates are all converting to fixed spools-including myself. Penn 8000. I have one as a xmas pressie and look forwards to using-mind I am not giving up on my multipliers. I have a Penn 525 for mixed ground and a Abu 7000 with level wind for heavy ground. All 3 mentioned reels will be coming with me to Norway next Feb.
Mick.
 
lol stick to fixed spool mate just tried to use a multiplier and was a nest a cast till my last cast when i could not free it

swapped over to my fixed spool and fished for 5 hrs trouble free lol
 
Lol! I worry about that happening to me too gregsgt! Greg from Beadnell thanks for the offer mate I will pm you in the new year and get something organised if that's ok. Hopefully save me from gregsgt fate if you can give me a few pointers.

I am going to continue with the FS as well mick but want to give multi's a try, especially on heavier ground. I like FS for braid which I have been lead to believe isnt a good choice of line for a multi?

Been looking at Akios 757 ctm as suggested earlier in thread. Also, to give me an idea, price I should be looking at for a good example old Abu 7000c?
 
Out shopping with the missus one day and spotted an advertisement in the local paper shop window. A guy was selling his sea gear to buy fly gear and he had a couple of old Abu 7ooo's for sale. I gave him a ring and went along to see him. He had two 7ooo;s for sale, each boxed complete with grease, tools, spare brake blocks !!! These things had been nursed from new and were set up ready to cast. I got them both for £70 !! He was pleased with the sale and so was I !! I still use then for the rough stuff, brilliant, and much better than some of the modern ones.

cheers,

aa.
 
for a top nick swedish 7000 or 7500 its usually £40 to £70 a piece dependng on the seller.

ID fishing often has them in second hand - or that big auction site is also good to pick a gleamer up.

Often our own trading section has some excellent examples as well.


If you can aim for the blue 7500CTC3, silver 7500C3, or Black 7000C or 7000C Syncro.

The red ones are jsut as good, but come with brass bushes rather than bearings and so can easily be upgraded.
 

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