i presume wallsendo when u say "those of a lavendar persuasion" ,you mean homosexuals, if so, i must say that i find this as offensive as the smell of lavender it's self, also if you are are refering to homersexual fishermen then i must say some of the best fishermen i know are openly gay (you only have to look at some of the usernames on this site) and they are proud of there sexuality, in fact, only a week ago you would have found me and "mick" snuggled up in the back of a van on a deserted beach in arbroath. don't knock it till youv'e tried it mate, unless of course you already have............