Rods..help needed please
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Chris_Hughes
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I would be very upset if I had a beachcaster that couldn\'t lift three pound weight. A heavy carp/pike rod would have a 3.0 lbs test curve (that is it takes 3.0 lbs to bend the rod through a 90 degree angle) Beachcasters are usually rated for 4 to 8 oz casting weight and are much heavier duty than a heavy carp/pike rod, so would easily handle a weight in excess of 3.0 lbs. However when taking the leverage around the upper hand as the fulcrum (say 3 ft from the butt and say about 7 ft to the tip) that\'s like holding a 7.0 lbs at arms length and could be as much as 12.0 lbs depending on the lever arm. That\'s quite a weight to hold at arms length for an extended period of time.
Richy, I can\'t help you with the rod choice - as my main rod that I\'m still using after 20 years is a Conoflex DC6 - I think the present day equivalent is a Nemesis Plus.
If piscatorial designer labels mean nothing to you, then go for one of the new Ron Thompson rods - in fact you\'d get two rods and have enough change to get an ABU 6500 from Ant for the price you pay for the top of the range Greys, Zzipplex, Conoflex, Penn, Daiwa rods.
Richy, I can\'t help you with the rod choice - as my main rod that I\'m still using after 20 years is a Conoflex DC6 - I think the present day equivalent is a Nemesis Plus.
If piscatorial designer labels mean nothing to you, then go for one of the new Ron Thompson rods - in fact you\'d get two rods and have enough change to get an ABU 6500 from Ant for the price you pay for the top of the range Greys, Zzipplex, Conoflex, Penn, Daiwa rods.
I think Codstopper was just saying that it\'s not what the are designed for, not that they can\'t do it. Just like winding fish up the side of piers and other venues, does really damage gears on multipliers. On Century rods when new, there is a note saying that you shouldn\'t swing fish in as it can lead to damgage through \"column loading\". I think that a warning is a good idea, at least they are saying that te are not designed to do it and that if you choose to lift or swing fish in then its your own fault if it goes tits up.
Cheers for the plug Chris...............
Cheers for the plug Chris...............
Chris_Hughes
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No problem Ant, my invoice for advertising fees is in the post.
What are the forces exerted on a rod tip during a standard over-head thump (let alone a full blown pendulum)? Granted they are a relative short duration shock load, but they are many pounds, other wise why bother with shock leaders, the rod would have snapped well before the line.
On the subject of fishing rods (and other tackle) I do think that there is a lot of hyped (and over priced) tackle on the market and Ron Thompson is quickly becoming the \"white label\" of fishing tackle. I think the analogy is, if you take a top of the range Porsche and a standard Ford Escort and drivee them from Leeds to Newcastle, at speeds where you are not going to attract the attention of the boys in blue, then both cars will arrive at their destination within 5 minutes (or less) of each other. The same applies to fishing tackle, the performance difference between the top of the range over priced designer label rods and the sensibly priced Ron Thompson (and also budget rods from Penn, Daiwa, ABU, Fladden etc. etc.) is negligible. I dare say that the same will apply to ABU reels and the cheaper offerings from the likes of Ron Thompson (and others). No doubt they will have a magnetically braked \"rocket\" on the drawing board waiting to go into production as soon as the lawyers have decided there are no patent infringements to worry about.
What are the forces exerted on a rod tip during a standard over-head thump (let alone a full blown pendulum)? Granted they are a relative short duration shock load, but they are many pounds, other wise why bother with shock leaders, the rod would have snapped well before the line.
On the subject of fishing rods (and other tackle) I do think that there is a lot of hyped (and over priced) tackle on the market and Ron Thompson is quickly becoming the \"white label\" of fishing tackle. I think the analogy is, if you take a top of the range Porsche and a standard Ford Escort and drivee them from Leeds to Newcastle, at speeds where you are not going to attract the attention of the boys in blue, then both cars will arrive at their destination within 5 minutes (or less) of each other. The same applies to fishing tackle, the performance difference between the top of the range over priced designer label rods and the sensibly priced Ron Thompson (and also budget rods from Penn, Daiwa, ABU, Fladden etc. etc.) is negligible. I dare say that the same will apply to ABU reels and the cheaper offerings from the likes of Ron Thompson (and others). No doubt they will have a magnetically braked \"rocket\" on the drawing board waiting to go into production as soon as the lawyers have decided there are no patent infringements to worry about.
I think the difference is that rods are designed to cast 6oz plus bait and can withstand that. The label with a new Century rod advises against swinging the rod and fish up past the vertical and down again. I\'m not an engineer but I know that some structures are very strong in some planes but not in others. I assume a rod may be built along those lines. Or as Ant says, it\'s a disclaimer to cut their liability.
