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[Stores]

regarding "jumbled garbage" i think its worth noting that not everyone has had the benefit of good education.many are brought up on abbreviated words used in text many have had to suffer teachers who were only interested in their long holidays,and not ensuring their pupils reached a standard of reasonable education.finally,i think its a disgrace that any one should be taken to task publicly for what they have written we have all got different capabilities in the things we have to do in life. for example,i know nothing about potatoe forks!!!!!

Has taken a while to bite.....but bite I must..........

- according to the Government (this and previous ones) education has been at the heart of all political reform. Indeed the pass rate at GCSE level (the equivelant of O level for us older characters) has risen from 15% in the times of Grammar Schools to over 60% now. Does that imply that members of our society are better at writing or worse?

- I take your point about long holidays....trouble is teachers are interested in the quality of their students' exam results BECAUSE THEIR PAY NOW DEPENDS ON IT. That's why you'll see teachers, who get paid for 205 days a year, which equates to 1265 hours, contractually, regularly in school at 8.00 and still there at 6.00 at night.

- finally I agree with your point that some students have been brought up on text speak.....usually those who are on their phones at the back of the class, planning their next fight or abusing others on MSN or Facebook.

Good spelling and grammar takes no more effort than a dictionary or spellcheck. Problem is we've lost the will to make ourselves understood in proper English, a position continually undermined by our political leaders who've made the passing of English (Language or
Literature) such a student bias test that to now punish poor writing would be an admission of failure. I don't criticise anth123...I rarely criticise anyone but to have a pop at teachers for something that is a social ill is a bit below the belt.

Oh and potato only has an "e" in the plural.

 

[anth123]

Has taken a while to bite.....but bite I must..........

- according to the Government (this and previous ones) education has been at the heart of all political reform. Indeed the pass rate at GCSE level (the equivelant of O level for us older characters) has risen from 15% in the times of Grammar Schools to over 60% now. Does that imply that members of our society are better at writing or worse?

- I take your point about long holidays....trouble is teachers are interested in the quality of their students' exam results BECAUSE THEIR PAY NOW DEPENDS ON IT. That's why you'll see teachers, who get paid for 205 days a year, which equates to 1265 hours, contractually, regularly in school at 8.00 and still there at 6.00 at night.

- finally I agree with your point that some students have been brought up on text speak.....usually those who are on their phones at the back of the class, planning their next fight or abusing others on MSN or Facebook.

Good spelling and grammar takes no more effort than a dictionary or spellcheck. Problem is we've lost the will to make ourselves understood in proper English, a position continually undermined by our political leaders who've made the passing of English (Language or
Literature) such a student bias test that to now punish poor writing would be an admission of failure. I don't criticise anth123...I rarely criticise anyone but to have a pop at teachers for something that is a social ill is a bit below the belt.

Oh and potato only has an "e" in the plural.

ive already had all ov this. just because i write the way i do in posts in your eyes means im always looking for a fight and i go about abusing others how do you work that out. as for teachers have i had a pop at them no mate. its got nothing to do with them. like i have said before just about every one writes in text speak these days thats just the way it is no matter what your education was like or the person you are. i think some people want to get with the times and stop living in the past. if people dont like the way i write in my posts they dont have to read then. im not been nasty just sticking up for my self and what i think. i dont tell other people how to write so people should not tell me i could go on all night but im going to stop there

 

[canman]

hi lads i need some help im after a potato fork 4 diggin lug for mysel does any 1 no where the best place is 2 get 1 from ad how much it would cost i dont want 2 pay 2 much but i want 1 that will last

Saw one in B&Q at Byker about 3 weeks ago about £12. 4 flatend blades.

 

[Topfly]

Take no notice Anth, this forum is for fishermen and women . ...end of.. If people want help to better their sport then, no matter how they convey their thoughts and questions to the forum , it's up to all the members to treat those questions with some respect. If questions take a bit to decipher then so be it, if you dont want to help or cant be bothered that's ok just leave it alone, but as someone earlier said we are all different. But we all have one thing in common.

 

[Stores]

ive already had all ov this. just because i write the way i do in posts in your eyes means im always looking for a fight and i go about abusing others how do you work that out. as for teachers have i had a pop at them no mate. its got nothing to do with them. like i have said before just about every one writes in text speak these days thats just the way it is no matter what your education was like or the person you are. i think some people want to get with the times and stop living in the past. if people dont like the way i write in my posts they dont have to read then. im not been nasty just sticking up for my self and what i think. i dont tell other people how to write so people should not tell me i could go on all night but im going to stop there

ant - you miss the point. I fish with all sorts and treat all of them with a level of respect, dependent on their ability to fish, nothing else. I also don't care a jot whether you write up your reports in text speak or Chinese - that's up to you. My criticism was aimed at lingking who blamed the decline in standards of education at the door of teachers and that is simply wrong.
To get back to the thread...would you believe I don't think I've dug a worm with a fork or spade since I was a teenager. Almost every worm I get is scratched from the hard somewhere.

 

[anth123]

i try to take no notice and not let it get to me but it does topfly.all i done is post a thread on this forum asking a question the next thing people have come on and had a pop at me about writing in text and my spelling. whats a man to do but stick up for his self like i have said its not nice when people do thing like that but thats the world we live in today

 

[wavy davy]

Lingking has it spot on except for one thing, you cant blame teachers for trying to give each pupil 100% of their time, i myself have a class of 33 pupils and although i try to make each one special i cannot physically do it, i wont go into the politics of it but believe me it is a very hard job.

 

[shaun]

Lingking has it spot on except for one thing, you cant blame teachers for trying to give each pupil 100% of their time, i myself have a class of 33 pupils and although i try to make each one special i cannot physically do it, i wont go into the politics of it but believe me it is a very hard job.

not all teachers are like that though...

 

[codseeker]

hi lads i need some help im after a potato fork 4 diggin lug for mysel does any 1 no where the best place is 2 get 1 from ad how much it would cost i dont want 2 pay 2 much but i want 1 that will last

all becos the lado wanted to nah about a decent fork for diggin hes arn wormz turns out to be a lot of fuss . if ya stuck and need any help anth and iz out digin giz a shout al treat ya as a normal interested guy without the highjacking folk its as soon as you say sommit out of place on here your bombarded by members that aint got nothing else better to do cos the fishing sh!te good luck all give the lad a break

excuse my ENGLISH

 

[paulthespark]

hi lads i need some help im after a potato fork 4 diggin lug for mysel does any 1 no where the best place is 2 get 1 from ad how much it would cost i dont want 2 pay 2 much but i want 1 that will last

i don't think it matters how you write your post as long as you get your message across, my daughter has a A*in English and is quite capable of writing in grammatically correct English but always text me in text English. which as anth said most young people use. Alan if you look at normal written English you will find a lot of abbreviations in it also, i.e[for one],I'm,I've haven't, can,t ,asap, etc, etc.

 

[neil1964]

neil1964, while you are on about spelling, I don't think Mr. Charlton spells his name like that mate

Sorry Neil, could'nt resist

Jim.[/QUOTE]

Ha Ha what a dope I am. :red:
Well spotted MiJ

 

[lingking]

grammer

grammer

to all those teachers who are hard working and conscientious,please accept my apology.i do not think that the teaching profession alone is responsible for the decline in standards. that probably starts with home influence,or the lack of it.there are many reasons why some of us struggle "to string a sentence together" in a manner that is clear to all

 

[anth123]

...Well I understood the lad's post...he wants a potato fork for digging lug because he wants to save a few quid....

A few pages of replies with minimal positive response. Hope you got sorted with a fork mate - and I'll have 50 yellowtails next time you're digging thanks..... ;-)

thats no probs mate the first 50 are yours

 

[kingcod deano]

b and q is your best bet mate i got a wilkinson sword one with has a slight bend in the shaft which makes it alot easyier on your back and you get a life time guarentee also the prongs are pretty wide making it ideal for turnin worms over think i paid around 25 for it and i have it for over a year

 

[canman]

have a look here mate, loads of choices.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_s...as=outdoor&field-keywords=garden+fork&x=0&y=0

Not a single potato fork amongst them