fixed spools, why the stigma ?

[neil1964]

The only thing that felt a little strange at first was the release compared to a multi but you sharp adjust. Give it a go ![/QUOTE]

I prefer a multi because I quite often muck up the release on a F/S reel. Just cant seem to let it "twang" off my finger at the correct point every cast. With a multi, its just a simple release of thumb pressure.
With me fishing with the reel up the butt, it just seems a bit cack handed winding in with a F/S.
Can definitely see the advantages of a F/S in the dark instead of guessing the point to stop the spool on a multi.
Pros and conns for me but the main reason i don't have any bigger than a spinning F/S is because I am sh*t at casting with them.

 

[john/r]

The only thing that felt a little strange at first was the release compared to a multi but you sharp adjust. Give it a go !

I prefer a multi because I quite often muck up the release on a F/S reel. Just cant seem to let it "twang" off my finger at the correct point every cast. With a multi, its just a simple release of thumb pressure.
With me fishing with the reel up the butt, it just seems a bit cack handed winding in with a F/S.
Can definitely see the advantages of a F/S in the dark instead of guessing the point to stop the spool on a multi.
Pros and conns for me but the main reason i don't have any bigger than a spinning F/S is because I am sh*t at casting with them. [/QUOTE]

there are some very good gloves for use with fixed spools i got a spod glove from gardner gives you confidense you wont slice your finger open.
both reels have advantages its just carrying them all about.

 

[mardenq]

there are some very good gloves for use with fixed spools i got a spod glove from gardner gives you confidense you wont slice your finger open.

that's what I use in a left handed.also got a nice pair of gloves off a mate on here and I use the right hand glove when casting braid on my q7 as the reel is in the normal position and don't fancy butchering this rod to move it

 

[big phil 123]

there are some very good gloves for use with fixed spools i got a spod glove from gardner gives you confidense you wont slice your finger open.

that's what I use in a left handed.also got a nice pair of gloves off a mate on here and I use the right hand glove when casting braid on my q7 as the reel is in the normal position and don't fancy butchering this rod to move it

Q7 yukki??whats it like as thats the stiffest isnt it? Anyone used them cannon things?

 

[magpies]

I tried a cannon but didn't like the feel at all

 

[mardenq]

Q7 yukki??whats it like as thats the stiffest isnt it? Anyone used them cannon things?

yeah its the yuki taylor q7,i got the 4.2m one and love it.ive tried the cannons and ended up selling them 2 for a tenner.i found it hard to get it on the rod in the right place,i ended up with it on the side of the blank.and you can put it on the top and use your thumb like a multi.i just couldn't get away with them.if you get the release right you can make the lead fly buy rather use a casting glove

 

[Deans]

i do rate fixed spools.

but they arent the strongest bit of kit for cliff top distance fishing.

short range braid/ kelp fishing - ideal obviously.

know a yorkshire lad who fishes all the opens with a fixed spool with braid.

as for crack offs on multiplyers, example the mag525- set the mags correctly and i cannot see how its a problem disregarding other obviouse reasons like rod and technique.

ive started to release the mags in mid cast, especially when am on noses point with a bait the size of a cricket ball ha ha- get well over 30 yards now. ha

not hard at all with the slidey models, a lot easier than the mag525.2.
normal worm blasting with slim baits, mag adjusment i never bother mid cast. quater turn.
mag 525. 2 tatty and ive changed most of the components on mine from the older models. however i think they cast ok with ceramics and a drop of yellow.

just my opinion lads - nee handbags like the usual

 

[topbanana]

A lot of the Whitby lads use the daiwa tournament 6000t and shimano super ultegra's for cliff tops, the likes of bempton and flamborough, so they are capable. Read a few bits and pieces on the Whitby site where lads have wound fish to 9lb up the cliffs on the daiwa.

 

[john/r]

A lot of the Whitby lads use the daiwa tournament 6000t and shimano super ultegra's for cliff tops, the likes of bempton and flamborough, so they are capable. Read a few bits and pieces on the Whitby site where lads have wound fish to 9lb up the cliffs on the daiwa.

fishing the likes of bempton cliffs etc i would opt for the likes of an alvey reel better whinching power and holds more line.

 

[john/r]

i do rate fixed spools.

but they arent the strongest bit of kit for cliff top distance fishing.

short range braid/ kelp fishing - ideal obviously.

know a yorkshire lad who fishes all the opens with a fixed spool with braid.

as for crack offs on multiplyers, example the mag525- set the mags correctly and i cannot see how its a problem disregarding other obviouse reasons like rod and technique.

ive started to release the mags in mid cast, especially when am on noses point with a bait the size of a cricket ball ha ha- get well over 30 yards now. ha

not hard at all with the slidey models, a lot easier than the mag525.2.
normal worm blasting with slim baits, mag adjusment i never bother mid cast. quater turn.
mag 525. 2 tatty and ive changed most of the components on mine from the older models. however i think they cast ok with ceramics and a drop of yellow.

just my opinion lads - nee handbags like the usual

yes you are spot on dean.

 

[g-force]

Many years ago in my late teens I was inspired by seeing the Coull brothers backcasting with a big Mitchell F/S strapped to the bottom of the rod & got one to stick on the bottom of my old DC6. Well, fixed spools back then were hideously primitive compared to today's models and there was no braid available (other than that heavy Dacron stuff) but with 15lb mono it was quite capable to use on clean beaches. Heavier line was a no-no though as too much distance was lost.

One good thing I liked about a fixed spool was the faster retrieve from the get go - chuck over a hundred yards with a multiplier and your initial retrieve speed was cut significantly due to the drop in line level on the narrow spool. With a bigger fixed spool though, you were probably getting a yard or more back straight away with each turn of the handle. So if you're fishing somewhere where there's a nasty ledge or snaggy patches going out some distance, then a fixed spool could give you an advantage getting your gear up and skimming across the surface in no time. I must say I'm tempted to get a new big F/S to try out (other than the smaller ones I've got for scratching / float etc) - I haven't decided if I'd go down the braid route or not (probably have a spool of each to cover all bases) but I think I'd stick to backcasting them as I do find a big F/S really unbalanced & unwieldy when casting up the butt.

Gary

 

[john/r]

I think each to the own my main problems with fixed spool is the finger slap and the lack of distance. I guess if i put the same amount of time playong about with f spool i might get used to them. I just find multi easier to use with drag etc faster to adjust. And with the f spool i find the retrieve to fast

i tend to agree a lot with you there phil finger slap though???.

to get same distace as with multiplier you realy need to put fine line on.

also with mono leaders a lot of people are having problems wth unexpexted crack off converting to a braid leader like many are doing cure this but i am not keen on braid leaders.

if fishing with braid approx 20lb b/s on a fixed spool and a braid leader and you like this set up the distances you can put out if you want is amazing.

 

[john/r]

Many years ago in my late teens I was inspired by seeing the Coull brothers backcasting with a big Mitchell F/S strapped to the bottom of the rod & got one to stick on the bottom of my old DC6. Well, fixed spools back then were hideously primitive compared to today's models and there was no braid available (other than that heavy Dacron stuff) but with 15lb mono it was quite capable to use on clean beaches. Heavier line was a no-no though as too much distance was lost.

One good thing I liked about a fixed spool was the faster retrieve from the get go - chuck over a hundred yards with a multiplier and your initial retrieve speed was cut significantly due to the drop in line level on the narrow spool. With a bigger fixed spool though, you were probably getting a yard or more back straight away with each turn of the handle. So if you're fishing somewhere where there's a nasty ledge or snaggy patches going out some distance, then a fixed spool could give you an advantage getting your gear up and skimming across the surface in no time. I must say I'm tempted to get a new big F/S to try out (other than the smaller ones I've got for scratching / float etc) - I haven't decided if I'd go down the braid route or not (probably have a spool of each to cover all bases) but I think I'd stick to backcasting them as I do find a big F/S really unbalanced & unwieldy when casting up the butt.

Gary

coull brothers i can remember them brilliant the mitchell fixed spools you mention would of been the 399 and 398 very fast retrieve compared by todays standards one was right handed and one was left handed.you still see them on ebay from time to time.

 

[g-force]

coull brothers i can remember them brilliant the mitchell fixed spools you mention would of been the 399 and 398 very fast retrieve compared by todays standards one was right handed and one was left handed.you still see them on ebay from time to time.

Yeah, I can't remember the exact model number but it was a right-hand wind, which I think was the odd-number model. I cut the bale-arm down to prevent premature re-engagement, which was a common thing to do. Ran into the Coull's at a comp over at Blackpool and they gave us a little demonstration - quite eye-opening at the time, when virtually nobody could cast 200 yards - I think one of them was a record holder at the time (Peter or Paul?).

One thing that was always at the back of my mind though was spool slippage when casting - I wish they'd made a reel where you could actually "lock" the spool rather than having to twiddle with the drag wheel every cast. I did try out one of the original Breakaway "thumb-buttons" - a kind of plastic fore-runner to the Cannons, but couldn't get away with it & it was soon trashed anyway after a few slips cut deep grooves into the plastic. I think if I got back into using one I'd be looking at the finger-stall / glove options.

Gary

 

[Ian Alexander]

Hello,
I use a Daiwa Tournament 6000TS and like mardenq has said I use a Gardner spodding glove.
Never had any problems with this.

Regards Ian

 

[john/r]

Yeah, I can't remember the exact model number but it was a right-hand wind, which I think was the odd-number model. I cut the bale-arm down to prevent premature re-engagement, which was a common thing to do. Ran into the Coull's at a comp over at Blackpool and they gave us a little demonstration - quite eye-opening at the time, when virtually nobody could cast 200 yards - I think one of them was a record holder at the time (Peter or Paul?).

One thing that was always at the back of my mind though was spool slippage when casting - I wish they'd made a reel where you could actually "lock" the spool rather than having to twiddle with the drag wheel every cast. I did try out one of the original Breakaway "thumb-buttons" - a kind of plastic fore-runner to the Cannons, but couldn't get away with it & it was soon trashed anyway after a few slips cut deep grooves into the plastic. I think if I got back into using one I'd be looking at the finger-stall / glove options.

Gary

yes cutting the bale arm i have done this with two f/spools i have, next is two put a hole
in the spool skirt were i can put a stainless steel made hook in to stop spool slipping during cast as john holden recommended.

the gardner spod glove is very good i have one gives you total confidense in gripping line when casting .i put the line right in the crook of my finger spod glove wrks great.

 

[markgg]

I sometimes like using a f/spool, but I find when I cast hard the finger that holds the line cuts,burns or I let go too soon/late, are those trigger things worth ago???

 

[Daz65]

Just buy a leather finger stall for a couple of quid most of the online tackle stores have them and I'm sure some of the local ones will stick them

 

[Deans]

a few people bringing up the point that fixed spools get your fish of the bottom faster.
this is a similar point brought up when talking about braid.
surely its about getting the right balance between retrieval speed and a safety cushion.
i mean a fixed spool and braid riving the hell out of it will increase the chance of loosing a good fish- in the kelp i mean.
some lads suit the fixed spools some lads don't.
the lads who are built like a brick **** houses usually sit in the lads who don't category??

 

[Deans]

another point about multiplyer lads thinking they are 'above' fixed spoolers.
i could look at this from a different perspective like a 4 year old would.
just like my todler son is learning to ride a bike and is jealouse of the lad over the road who doesent use stabilizers on his bike.