Article 47.

Had an email yesterday from the press office of Martin Callanan the Tory MEP for the NE.

This was follwed up a phone call from the man himself where we had a long conversation.

This guy is very concerned about NE sea anglers and prepared to stand up for us.

He is about to take part in the politics show and I have been asked by the BBC to arrange a boat trip where they can do some filming to be included in the show. The boat is organised but I am waiting for the BBC to confirm a date when they can make it and hopefully the weather will be kind to us. Hopefully next week some time.

If you want to make further comments or just copy your original emails sent to an additional MEP his contact details are

Martin Callanan MEP > Contact Page

[email protected]

He did offer to come out on the boat trip if his diary allows.

There may be a spare place or two on the boat so if anyone wants to come along and perhaps have their say please let me know. I cant promise a place as I dont know how big a film crew is.

Get in touch with Mr Callanan...he does seem to be intrested and is prepared to voice our concerns where it matters.

Finally I have asked that Article 47 be discussed at Northumberland SFC meeting which is scheduled for tues at Morpeth County Hall. This meeting is open to the public however you will not be allowed to speak unless invited to do so by the chairman.

If anyone has any comments you would like me to bring up at the meeting please feel free to contact me via this forum or [email protected]
Regards
Dave
 
Nice one Dave,I think our meps are getting the message. hope your day out on the boat goes ok ( and you catch very little ) lol. all the best Jim:)
 
Cheers Dave....(Keep me informed about the trip)

I'd just like to say that having spoken to Dave and Loopy, there is loads going on in the background that they as well as Angling Unity, the SACN and the SSACN are all doing to protect, develop and promote the benefits of RSA through the press, MP's MEP's and other lobby groups.

It's also great to see so many people on here becoming active and lobbying for angling and I'm quite sure as well as doing it on here, you are all mentioning to lads/lasses that don't come on here and in the tackle shops we visit. My lass is sick of me going on and all my work colleagues, but if we can make a difference then I think it's all worth while.

Well done....let's keep the pressure up.
 
I have to echo red5s comments.

The press and the meps have picked up on this in a big way. The responses from mp's and in particular MEP's has been tremendous.

I recieve many emails every day and it has never been so busy with info on article 47.

I have to say that press reporting is often forshortened by the need for space.

Nearly every regional tv area has done a special....I have had calls from the journal... althought I dont quite understand why the guy never called a certain AC on this forum.

If it would help I can publish a list of MEPs who have stood up against this...it all depends on how many emails you are prepared to send ;)

Everyone seems to agree this is not for the uk ...and infact it was not aimed at you and me but at the "artisanal fishers" of warmer climes.

Couple of down points here...

I got the agenda for the SFC meeting on tuesday....no mention of article 47.

There was no commitment by the labour fisheries minister to oppose this when asked in parliament.

I dont want to repeat what has already been posted elsewhere...but my interest is what happens in the NE and how it will affect our fishing...so any comments or observations specific to our region would be appreciated.

I will forward them direct to Martin Callanan who has asked to kept informed of sea anglers opinions. We have a friend abroad ...please dont waste the opportunity.

Cheers
Dave
ps ...dont think the sfc wont be be discussing this on tues despite the lack of inclussion in the agenda. If it isnt discussed there will be a major shouting match as the subject was discussed at the senior fisheries officers meeting back in early Jan so they can hardly say they know nothing.
 
beware

beware

i was looking on the fishing forums on the net today.
and seen on one of them there was a questionaer for anglers to fill in,, all about your fishing habits it looks like a good thing ,,but then you think hold on, the powers that be ,,could quite easy use this against us .

any one know more on this
 
anndy said:
i was looking on the fishing forums on the net today.
and seen on one of them there was a questionaer for anglers to fill in,, all about your fishing habits it looks like a good thing ,,but then you think hold on, the powers that be ,,could quite easy use this against us .

any one know more on this
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Hi Andyy.
I have attended quite a few meetings regarding gathering data about RSA activities. One subject that does come up regularly is the lack of specific information about anglers.

Defra, Cefas and Natural England all keep asking how they can gather information to help cater for anglers needs and yet it never seems to get any further.

Every organisation and individual at the meetings has been very wary about what use such information would be put to whilst also agreeing that if such info were available it would actually help anglers get a better deal.

Its a catch 22 situation where there is a good case can be made to help data be collected but what use would it be put to .

Non of the organisations seem to be trying to collect the data that is available i.e. match returns on the internet, historic match returns and the info collected by the NFSA over the years on catches. It there in the public domain and yet they are not making use of it as far as I know.

Cheers
Dave
 
Article 47 was discussed at the Northumbia SFC meeting held yesterday and it was unanimously decided that the committee should write to all NE MEP's and MP's to ask for their support in getting article 47 removed from the Reform Policy.

So we are not alone and it cannot be that often that a SFC 100% agrees with RSA's on an RSA issue. I will be forwarding them some additional info so they can get the right message off to the MEP's.

The only other matter discussed relevant to anglers is that Defra have signed the new bylaw 14 so it will now become a legally binding bylaw and this would mean that if you plan to put down a pot (max 5) it MUST have a tag on it issued by the SFC.

Cheers
Dave
 
I thought you already had to have tags on your pots? I've just renewed my 'limited shell fish permit' which covers 10 pots? or is that something different?
 
Hi Paul .

That sounds like the one for the south of the tyne which is the NESFC.

Not to be confused with the NSFC who are introducing a similar bylaw

Cheers
Dave
 
Update

Update

Written answersWednesday, 4 February 2009
Environment Food and Rural AffairsCommon Fisheries Policy Richard Benyon (Shadow Minister, Environment, Food & Rural Affairs; Newbury, Conservative) To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs pursuant to the Answer of 22 January 2009, Official Report, column 1587W, on the Common Fisheries Policy,

(1) when he plans (a) to complete a detailed impact assessment of the proposals and (b) formally to consult on the proposals; and if will make a statement;(2) when he plans to make a formal response to the Council of Ministers and the European Commission on Article 47 of the proposed Council Regulation establishing a community control system for ensuring compliance with the rules of the Common Fisheries Policy;(3) with reference to the provisions of Article 47 of the proposed Council Regulation establishing a community control system for ensuring compliance with the rules of the Common Fisheries Policy, how much quota he plans to allocate to recreational sea anglers, broken down by species in each fishing area and expressed as a percentage of overall national quota; and if he will make a statement.

Huw Irranca-Davies (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs; Ogmore, Labour)

My officials are currently engaged in discussions with the EU presidency, the Commission and other member states over the detail of the Commission's proposal for a council regulation establishing a community control system for ensuring compliance with the rules of the common fisheries policy. As part of that discussion, officials will be asking the Commission for further clarification on the intent of article 47. Once we have that clarification, we will be able to better understand the potential impact of article 47 as drafted, including the implications for quota, and can then respond formally to the council. My intention is to consult on the proposal by the end of February. An initial impact assessment will form part of that consultation.

Fisheries: QuotasAll Written Answers on 4 Feb 2009 « Previous answer Next answer » Richard Benyon (Shadow Minister, Environment, Food & Rural Affairs; Newbury, Conservative)

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs whether the inclusion of recreational sea angling catches in national quota derives from recommendations of the Quota Management Change Programme.

Huw Irranca-Davies (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs; Ogmore, Labour

The proposal to count recreational sea angling catches, in certain circumstances, against a member state's quota forms part of the recently published Commission proposal for a Council regulation establishing a community control system for ensuring compliance with the rules of the common fisheries policy. The UK Government had no discussions with the Commission prior to the publication of the proposal.




Common Fisheries Policy: 4 Feb 2009: Written answers (TheyWorkForYou.com)
 
Article 47

Article 47

In the March issue of Total Sea Fishing turn to page 14 article headed as "words of warning" in the article there's a web site address UK Independence Party if you visit the site you can sign the petition to have article 47 dropped.It also gives an address so you can contact your MEP for your area.:yltype:
 
Update

Update

Common sense creeping in or just pressure from RSA via MEP's

10 Feb 09 - From a speech today by Jo Borg Member of the European
Commission - Responsible for Fisheries and Maritime Affairs


Rapid - Press Releases - EUROPA

Before I come to the end of my intervention let me say a few words about our proposal to reform the way we control fisheries activities in the future.
The most famous words contained in our proposal must be the words "recreational fishing". In some Member States our proposals in this regard have been misinterpreted alarming citizens that the Commission wants to start controlling millions of hobby anglers and impose quota restrictions on them. This would obviously be a crazy thing to do, and it is therefore not at all our intention to implement such a ludicrous system. Let me make clear once and for all that the hobby angler who catches a few kilos of fish every time he goes out fishing and uses it for his private consumption, will not be covered by the control regulation, even if he catches fish like cod which is under a recovery plan.
There are however facts and figures in abundance that show that certain forms of so called recreational fishing have a dangerously considerable impact on certain vulnerable fish stock. We cannot just keep restricting severely professional fishing on those stocks but give the recreational fishermen a free ride. They have to contribute as well to the conservation effort. It is with this balance in mind that the Commission will approach the issue in the context of negotiations.
We look forward to working with you on this question, on the whole control regulation and of course also on the reform of our policy. In any event, I know that we at the Commission can always rely on the Parliament to stimulate and support us in improving the lot of Europe's citizens.
 
Cheer's for that Loopy, I doubt very much we would have heard anything like that if anglers had not voiced their concerns. Thank you to all of the MEPs that backed our Emails and took the time to answer us all.

Jim.
 
what a complete load of euro spin PR ****e

para 1: "it would be crazy to impose quote restrictions on anglers"

para 2: "we cannot give recreational fisherman a free ride"

one negates the other and is nothing more than politico speak to make it look like they really care and take the heat off for a bit while they press ahead regardless
 

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