PLASTIC GAZ
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mine sent,just to add my bit ,everyone on this site should reply to article 47,the commercial fisherman are raping the seas,why put the recreational fisherman in the same category
Article 47.
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tonynufc
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i got a reply today
Dear Tony,
RE: Community control system for ensuring compliance with the rules of the Common Fisheries Policy and recreational angling
Thank you for your letter highlighting your concerns that Article 47 of the control regulation may bring recreational anglers within the scope of the CFP and its quota regime. As the Labour spokesperson on the Fisheries Committee, please accept this response on behalf of myself and my Labour colleague, David Martin MEP.
Within the European Parliament discussion of the control system regulation is at very early stages. The rapporteur is Raül Romeva I Rueda (Verts/ALE) and the first discussion of the issue will take place on 21 January. The timetable for the report has not yet been finalised. The final position of the European Parliamentary Labour Party and the Socialist Group will be decided at a later stage but in the meantime please rest assured that I as EPLP fisheries spokesperson, will take the opportunity in committee to query the Commission on the scope of Article 47, what kind of anglers it applies to, and the practicalities of this proposal.
Yours sincerely,
Catherine Stihler MEP
Labour MEP for Scotland
Dear Tony,
RE: Community control system for ensuring compliance with the rules of the Common Fisheries Policy and recreational angling
Thank you for your letter highlighting your concerns that Article 47 of the control regulation may bring recreational anglers within the scope of the CFP and its quota regime. As the Labour spokesperson on the Fisheries Committee, please accept this response on behalf of myself and my Labour colleague, David Martin MEP.
Within the European Parliament discussion of the control system regulation is at very early stages. The rapporteur is Raül Romeva I Rueda (Verts/ALE) and the first discussion of the issue will take place on 21 January. The timetable for the report has not yet been finalised. The final position of the European Parliamentary Labour Party and the Socialist Group will be decided at a later stage but in the meantime please rest assured that I as EPLP fisheries spokesperson, will take the opportunity in committee to query the Commission on the scope of Article 47, what kind of anglers it applies to, and the practicalities of this proposal.
Yours sincerely,
Catherine Stihler MEP
Labour MEP for Scotland
I too got that 'copy and paste' reply which I found about as committal as Labour to it's own manifesto pledges.
I also received a reply from Struan Stevenson MEP (conservative) which was more sympathetic to our plight.
anndy
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got this today
Our Ref: Constit/FISH
Thank you for getting in touch regarding EU fisheries polcy. Under an informal arrangement to avoid duplication my SNP colleague Ian Hudghton leads for the SNP on fisheries, as he sits on the Fisheries Committee. Given that you have already been in touch with him I am sure he will be in touch soon if he has not already, and speaks for both of us.
Yours aye
Alyn Smith MEP
Our Ref: Constit/FISH
Thank you for getting in touch regarding EU fisheries polcy. Under an informal arrangement to avoid duplication my SNP colleague Ian Hudghton leads for the SNP on fisheries, as he sits on the Fisheries Committee. Given that you have already been in touch with him I am sure he will be in touch soon if he has not already, and speaks for both of us.
Yours aye
Alyn Smith MEP
dicky mint
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mine sent..... waiting with baited breath
dicky mint
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yep, same 2 replies from mr smith and miss stihler
SnaggedUpLad
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I'll be looking for that about 23:00... (get back from outting then probally) if anyone finds the minutes post em 
Red5
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anndy
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Thank you for your correspondence about Article 47 of the Control Regulation. I share your concerns over this.
Unfortunately, the Article is not clearly drafted, but as far as I can understand it the European Commission intends it to apply only where there is a multi-annual (recovery) plan, for stocks outside safe biological limits, such as with cod and blue fin tuna and where the fishing is done from onboard a vessel. This means that it would not affect most recreational sea fisheries, including any done from onshore, or angling on inland waters.
As I understand it, the Commission's concern is with the substantial amounts that are caught by some recreational fisheries in relation to the species covered by the multi annual recovery plans. For example, it is estimated that in Italy (2007), 800 tonnes of blue fin tuna were caught by recreational fishers whilst the national quota is around 4,300 tonnes. On my reading, too, the Article is intended to prevent commercial fishing under the guise of recreational fishing.
That said, Article 47 sets a precedent of which we should be very wary. Please be assured that this point has already been raised with some force in the course of our deliberations in the Fisheries Committee. It seems clear that there will be amendments from committee members asking for the Article to be deleted from the proposal or, failing that, amended very substantially indeed.
I should add, though, that under the current procedures, the Parliament can only give an opinion and the final decision is taken by the Council of Fisheries Ministers. So, it would be useful, too, for you to make the government directly aware of your views on the issue.
Yours sincerely,
Elspeth Attwooll MEP
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Thank you for your correspondence about Article 47 of the Control Regulation. I share your concerns over this.
Unfortunately, the Article is not clearly drafted, but as far as I can understand it the European Commission intends it to apply only where there is a multi-annual (recovery) plan, for stocks outside safe biological limits, such as with cod and blue fin tuna and where the fishing is done from onboard a vessel. This means that it would not affect most recreational sea fisheries, including any done from onshore, or angling on inland waters.
As I understand it, the Commission's concern is with the substantial amounts that are caught by some recreational fisheries in relation to the species covered by the multi annual recovery plans. For example, it is estimated that in Italy (2007), 800 tonnes of blue fin tuna were caught by recreational fishers whilst the national quota is around 4,300 tonnes. On my reading, too, the Article is intended to prevent commercial fishing under the guise of recreational fishing.
That said, Article 47 sets a precedent of which we should be very wary. Please be assured that this point has already been raised with some force in the course of our deliberations in the Fisheries Committee. It seems clear that there will be amendments from committee members asking for the Article to be deleted from the proposal or, failing that, amended very substantially indeed.
I should add, though, that under the current procedures, the Parliament can only give an opinion and the final decision is taken by the Council of Fisheries Ministers. So, it would be useful, too, for you to make the government directly aware of your views on the issue.
Yours sincerely,
Elspeth Attwooll MEP
SnaggedUpLad
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yeah just got that one myself was about to put it up lol
replied to them saying what, you want me to get the goverment to listen.... who employee's you? lmfao
replied to them saying what, you want me to get the goverment to listen.... who employee's you? lmfao
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SnaggedUpLad
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anyone seen the petition? grown from 200 when i first seen it to 1210 so far
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just got this e mail
Dear Mr Charlton,
Thank you for your email regarding article 47. I share your concern.
As you are already aware, a Council Regulation on control systems for compliance with the Common Fisheries Policy will be discussed in the Fisheries Committee this month. Like my colleague, Mr Struan Stevenson, who is a member of the Fisheries committee, I fully support measures which aim to protect and conserve our depleting fish stocks. However, the Conservative delegation here at the European Parliament is concerned that Article 47 of the Regulation, which will bring recreational fisheries under the direct control of the Common Fisheries Policy, is a step too far.
If adopted, article 47 would require recreational anglers throughout the EU to apply for special licences and log and register their catches, where they are fishing for species covered by a multi-annual recovery plan. Member States would have to allocate a quota for recreational anglers and this would be deducted from their national quota. Recreational anglers would also be prohibited from selling any fish they catch.
As European lawmakers we must aim for balance in all our policies. Article 47 is not about balance, it is about bureaucracy and the surveillance state. Let me assure you that we will be voting against this article.
Yours sincerely,
John Purvis
Member of the European Parliament for Scotland
Dear Mr Charlton,
Thank you for your email regarding article 47. I share your concern.
As you are already aware, a Council Regulation on control systems for compliance with the Common Fisheries Policy will be discussed in the Fisheries Committee this month. Like my colleague, Mr Struan Stevenson, who is a member of the Fisheries committee, I fully support measures which aim to protect and conserve our depleting fish stocks. However, the Conservative delegation here at the European Parliament is concerned that Article 47 of the Regulation, which will bring recreational fisheries under the direct control of the Common Fisheries Policy, is a step too far.
If adopted, article 47 would require recreational anglers throughout the EU to apply for special licences and log and register their catches, where they are fishing for species covered by a multi-annual recovery plan. Member States would have to allocate a quota for recreational anglers and this would be deducted from their national quota. Recreational anglers would also be prohibited from selling any fish they catch.
As European lawmakers we must aim for balance in all our policies. Article 47 is not about balance, it is about bureaucracy and the surveillance state. Let me assure you that we will be voting against this article.
Yours sincerely,
John Purvis
Member of the European Parliament for Scotland
