SnaggedUpLad
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congratulations you probally just made alotmorepeople notice
Article 47.
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paulthespark
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i really don't know
i really don't know
it's all bollocks, all i want to do is fish, and if i catch a few for the table i'l take them home and eat them, there's not a lot fish in the sea as it is, bring out another half cocked e.u law and i'll give up the sport i have loved for last 30 years alltogether, i admit there was some very strong arguments from the lads on this thread but in the end i,m getting very dispondent and i really dont know if its worth all the money i spend, which is hundreds and hundreds of pounds on no fish and strangling e.u laws.
i really don't know
it's all bollocks, all i want to do is fish, and if i catch a few for the table i'l take them home and eat them, there's not a lot fish in the sea as it is, bring out another half cocked e.u law and i'll give up the sport i have loved for last 30 years alltogether, i admit there was some very strong arguments from the lads on this thread but in the end i,m getting very dispondent and i really dont know if its worth all the money i spend, which is hundreds and hundreds of pounds on no fish and strangling e.u laws.
treeboa
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sent my emails last night, then nodded off
one thing i will say though, this country suffers from complacency, and it seriously suffers from it, seen the same when the firearms act went into knee jerk reaction, same when the reptile keepers had a big threat hanging over them, higher fuel costs, pay to drive etc, etc, seems to be that the majority are happier to find a beach and shove thier collective heads in the sand, the mod from the other site if he had got his own way would have further fueled the problem
besides the crap we as anglers would have imposed you would see further job cuts from tackle shops and the industries that provide to them, not bad when you consider we are in one hell of a problem in this country and this would lead to further job losses, so any mp that does not back us surely is openly agreeing with adding further names to the unemployed register, no good saying oh that would not happen, in my opinion 75% of anglers would simply say bollocks to this an give the game up, few if any newbies would take it up
the great british lion is no longer, its now a toothless old moggy that runs from its own shadow
not bad for a country that battered hell out of the german axis idea of total european domination - yet here it seems to be back and renamed the e.u
one thing i will say though, this country suffers from complacency, and it seriously suffers from it, seen the same when the firearms act went into knee jerk reaction, same when the reptile keepers had a big threat hanging over them, higher fuel costs, pay to drive etc, etc, seems to be that the majority are happier to find a beach and shove thier collective heads in the sand, the mod from the other site if he had got his own way would have further fueled the problem
besides the crap we as anglers would have imposed you would see further job cuts from tackle shops and the industries that provide to them, not bad when you consider we are in one hell of a problem in this country and this would lead to further job losses, so any mp that does not back us surely is openly agreeing with adding further names to the unemployed register, no good saying oh that would not happen, in my opinion 75% of anglers would simply say bollocks to this an give the game up, few if any newbies would take it up
the great british lion is no longer, its now a toothless old moggy that runs from its own shadow
not bad for a country that battered hell out of the german axis idea of total european domination - yet here it seems to be back and renamed the e.u
paulthespark
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could't agree more.
SnaggedUpLad
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well said, but saying that WE rejected the EU twice, and yet our goverment is still at it, morons with suits, personally they'll only listen when held by gun point
paulthespark
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that's why they dare not for the life of them ,give us the british public a free vote[referendum] on whether to stay in the e.u or leave it. they know they will lose, so much for democracy from a supposed democratic goverment.hypocrits the lot of them.
northeast1
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Be out soon then we have the choice of 2 other lots lol ow the joy 
SnaggedUpLad
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worst thing is someone else had the plan for a "superstate" but did it a different way..... and we all know who that was..... hes the spit of charlie chaplin
I'll second that as in the words of mr Clarkson " they have too much power as demonstrated in their foreign holiday of 1939"
Anywany back on topic i signed the petition weeks ago and have just sent this.
After approximately 6 years away from sea angling from the shore, bringing up a family, I now find my chosen pastime to potentially come to an end because of rsa catches to be included with the commercial quota. The way I see it is the most sought after species, cod in particular, will have had it's quota met just as the main season is about to start, putting off the majority of sea anglers going out enjoying their sport. Obviously the knock on effect will be reduced tackle sales, resulting in less manufacturing and so on, thereby no doubt resulting in thousands of more job losses and closure of many well established businesses.
So surely the best way to conserve fish stocks and save jobs, is not to threaten recreatonal sea anglers with what little we catch (of which many get put back alive anyway) in comparison with what the commercial fleet discard, stop them fishing when quotas are met and impose total bans at spawning seasons, surely taking actions like these can only be for the better in the long run.
SnaggedUpLad
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i got that one lol did they give you a free lab pen
SnaggedUpLad
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noticed that is doesn't say anywhere that the article will be contested or opposed........its just filled with be reassured that i'll have a mention.... cocks
The Great Wallsendo
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there's little point in coming on here and going **** this and **** that as it'll achieve nothing
the article will not be contested or opposed as it's only a proposal at this stage - what'll poss' happen is that they'll realise certain parts of the proposal are an admin hassle; be that through the internet campaign or they may even use their own common dog...and prob' ' shufty that element to one side for the time being
...it'll come back though
the article will not be contested or opposed as it's only a proposal at this stage - what'll poss' happen is that they'll realise certain parts of the proposal are an admin hassle; be that through the internet campaign or they may even use their own common dog...and prob' ' shufty that element to one side for the time being
...it'll come back though
The Great Wallsendo
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good for them...won't make me vote for them though
mep reply
mep reply
got a personal email from martin callanan, my local tory mep, and he included a copy of a soon to be released press release, and asked me if i would talk to the media, about it....too daunting for me...but i will happily forward any names pm 'ed to me
Tory MEP supports north-east anglers up in arms over EU plan to monitor rod-and-line catches
Martin Callanan says ‘barmy idea’ is an attempt to hide abject failure of EU’s Common Fisheries Policy
NEWCASTLE, 19 January 2009 – Local Conservative MEP Martin Callanan is hooked to the cause of local sea anglers after being flooded with angry letters over an EU proposal to restrict and monitor people fishing with rod and line along the region’s coast.
The European Commission has proposed bringing recreational fishing under the direct control of the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy (CFP).
The plan would require millions of recreational sea anglers throughout the EU to apply for special licences.
Anglers would have to log and register their catches if they catch certain species.
Member states would have to allocate a quota for recreational anglers and this would be deducted from their national quota as set out under the CFP.
Anglers would also be banned from selling anything they catch.
Mr Callanan believes the plan is absurdly bureaucratic, unenforceable and a further dent in the rights of ordinary people to go about their daily lives.
He also believes that the EU proposal would be damaging to the local economy and to tourism.
Mr Callanan believes the plan is starts from the premise that recreational anglers are a nuisance rather than stewards of the marine environment.
It also fails to take into account the increasing practice of catch-and-release for many species by north-east anglers.
The MEP has received many letters on this subject given that sea angling is an immensely popular sport in the north-east.
From the wind-swept beaches of Northumberland to Seaham pier and down to the Tees estuary, many thousands of people – many of them youngsters – cast a line from the shore every week.
Recreational boat fishing is also popular in the region, with many anglers launching small boats in ports like Amble, Blyth, North Shields and Hartlepool.
Mr Callanan added that the EU picking on a soft target like rod-and-line anglers represented a way of diverting attention from the disastrous CFP.
He said that the Common Fisheries Policy had been terrible for fish stocks, jobs in the industry and the marine environment, and said it was not fair to bring anglers within the scope of the CFP.
The European Commission’s proposal is being discussed this week in the European Parliament’s fisheries committee.
However, it is the Council of the European Union – which groups together the governments of the EU member states, including Britain – which will decide on the matter, independently of what MEPs say.
Mr Callanan said:
“I’m not surprised anglers in the region are so angry about this because it’s unfair and absurd.
“Sea angling is immensely popular along our beautiful coastline and is important for the local economy.
“This barmy idea is never going to work and it will create mountains of bureaucracy at further cost to taxpayers.
“I don’t see why anglers should be made the scapegoats for the EU’s abject failure to manage our fisheries.
“The European Commission is picking on a soft target because it wants to divert attention from its disastrous handling of the CFP.
“Angling is a pleasant pastime and one in which many children and teenagers participate.
“It’s much better that they have something constructive to do.
“To me, this proposal amounts to the EU grabbing yet more control over our lives.
“This proposal basically assumes that anglers are plundering the seas every time they wet a line.
“It takes no account of the fact that conservation, including catch-and-release, is more prevalent among anglers now than it’s ever been.
“It’s a daft idea that will have no meaningful effect on conservation but will certainly make the EU even more unpopular in the north-east than it already is.”
mep reply
got a personal email from martin callanan, my local tory mep, and he included a copy of a soon to be released press release, and asked me if i would talk to the media, about it....too daunting for me...but i will happily forward any names pm 'ed to me
Tory MEP supports north-east anglers up in arms over EU plan to monitor rod-and-line catches
Martin Callanan says ‘barmy idea’ is an attempt to hide abject failure of EU’s Common Fisheries Policy
NEWCASTLE, 19 January 2009 – Local Conservative MEP Martin Callanan is hooked to the cause of local sea anglers after being flooded with angry letters over an EU proposal to restrict and monitor people fishing with rod and line along the region’s coast.
The European Commission has proposed bringing recreational fishing under the direct control of the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy (CFP).
The plan would require millions of recreational sea anglers throughout the EU to apply for special licences.
Anglers would have to log and register their catches if they catch certain species.
Member states would have to allocate a quota for recreational anglers and this would be deducted from their national quota as set out under the CFP.
Anglers would also be banned from selling anything they catch.
Mr Callanan believes the plan is absurdly bureaucratic, unenforceable and a further dent in the rights of ordinary people to go about their daily lives.
He also believes that the EU proposal would be damaging to the local economy and to tourism.
Mr Callanan believes the plan is starts from the premise that recreational anglers are a nuisance rather than stewards of the marine environment.
It also fails to take into account the increasing practice of catch-and-release for many species by north-east anglers.
The MEP has received many letters on this subject given that sea angling is an immensely popular sport in the north-east.
From the wind-swept beaches of Northumberland to Seaham pier and down to the Tees estuary, many thousands of people – many of them youngsters – cast a line from the shore every week.
Recreational boat fishing is also popular in the region, with many anglers launching small boats in ports like Amble, Blyth, North Shields and Hartlepool.
Mr Callanan added that the EU picking on a soft target like rod-and-line anglers represented a way of diverting attention from the disastrous CFP.
He said that the Common Fisheries Policy had been terrible for fish stocks, jobs in the industry and the marine environment, and said it was not fair to bring anglers within the scope of the CFP.
The European Commission’s proposal is being discussed this week in the European Parliament’s fisheries committee.
However, it is the Council of the European Union – which groups together the governments of the EU member states, including Britain – which will decide on the matter, independently of what MEPs say.
Mr Callanan said:
“I’m not surprised anglers in the region are so angry about this because it’s unfair and absurd.
“Sea angling is immensely popular along our beautiful coastline and is important for the local economy.
“This barmy idea is never going to work and it will create mountains of bureaucracy at further cost to taxpayers.
“I don’t see why anglers should be made the scapegoats for the EU’s abject failure to manage our fisheries.
“The European Commission is picking on a soft target because it wants to divert attention from its disastrous handling of the CFP.
“Angling is a pleasant pastime and one in which many children and teenagers participate.
“It’s much better that they have something constructive to do.
“To me, this proposal amounts to the EU grabbing yet more control over our lives.
“This proposal basically assumes that anglers are plundering the seas every time they wet a line.
“It takes no account of the fact that conservation, including catch-and-release, is more prevalent among anglers now than it’s ever been.
“It’s a daft idea that will have no meaningful effect on conservation but will certainly make the EU even more unpopular in the north-east than it already is.”
