You make a valid point, I was at the end of South Shields pier early on two weekends ago, got there at 05:00 and there was only six of us at the end of the pier, I fished beach side of the Blocks, at this time in the morning the six fisherman were either all weather, all year round veterans, insomniacs, or not keen on their wives (and in need of an excuse to escape). By 09:00 some 'newbies' were present on the end of the pier and we did indeed offer some help and advice, not a problem with that and all things 'good and proper' in the early morning sunshine......by 10:00 a different 'type' of angler started arrive, ahead of their vanguard came an individual carrying his rod and hi girlfriend, (in a fur coat), carrying a twelve pack of Fosters, soon after the hoard arrived, including three very special fisherman who kept shouting fish on, jumping here and there hustling fisherman out of the way......time to leave.......I had a dozen mackeral, and thats enough for me