copying casts

[john/r]

hi how many of us have designed our own cast without copying someone elses .myself i tend to copy i aint clever enough to say thats my cast.reading summit on another forum niel mackellow was describing his cast ,i could get some things wrong here but here goes a lot of us tend to admire mackellow and to a certain extent try to copy. he said in thread think i am right here the quattra was only rod he could do his cast with and the butt he was using on it was a softer than the shop versions.it does get me thinking that rod choice does it realy matter is it criticle or not. i know a lot of real good casters look on here maybe they have some thoughts.regarding soft butts i thought the idea of casting was to have a stiff butt to use as a lever but these days softer butts are more parr for the course,mackellow also says a rod has to be 9tenths busted i dont know.paul kerry years ago using the awt129 surely could not of had the butts on them rods bent they seem realy stiff to me.

[oldchukka]

now john you,re bound to have started something talking about firm and soft butts on here, but if you are talking rods and bending butts and copying, you need to be a strong lad to bend some of the butts i,ve seen. i prefer a but with a bit of give in it, mainly cos stiff,uns make my old bones rattle a bit.
i saw niels rod that he used when he was top man, when he took me round the zippy factory. --- very nice bit of kit.

[john/r]

hi old chukka, i am pretty sure about what i am about to say niel was saying the quattra he had with softer butt than the shop version was the only rod which he could do his cast with, saying that i have watched him with penn rods doing what looks like same cast to me. i am sure i read this not too long ago on his forum. its easy to start a thread like this and so easy to get shot down thats why i sometimes i think why bother with forums. another thing that comes in at times is you get accused of being to technicle ie techno babble but if like me i like to understand things, if you dont like to know things how do you start your cast as simple as that

[BAZZ B]

i prefer mine nice soft and round something you can get your teeth into but if your talking rods i like a little give in mine so you can feel the cast with stiff buts you tend to lose the feel of the rod well in my opinion anyway im sure somebody else will be different my cast simmular to neil kelland.

[Haggis_Tosser]

Nothing wrong with copying, I am sure all casters take 'bits' of others casts' and make their own individual style. Don't think any two casters have the exact same cast; there just similar casts in the broadest terms.
Its really a case of what works for you best.

[john/r]

hi there haggis tosser,do you go to cast comps up your way are they running them at ayre now

[Haggis_Tosser]

Try to go to them, the shore calander stops me doing some of them; theres only been the one at Ayr which I could not make. Hope to make the next SSA one though if its on.

[beachcaster]

well done on your casting at the uksf event ian some good hitting there.you still using the ttr mate???cheers john

[john/r]

hi there haggis tosser or ian,are you the guy that came 2nd behind danny the other week when he did them massive casts, i just twigged on yest after i sent you reply on thread ,if you live in scotland you must have some traveling pity there was no uksf up north, mind yuou bazzzzzzzzzz the ballerina has some traveling hes from outer space deff not from this planet
john

[john/r]

hi there beachcaster, is there no improvement with your back sometimes it actualy eases my back but i suppose there diff types of back problems

[beachcaster]

no john if any thing its worse now than ever,and yes ian did finish second to danny last sunday at the uksf.he is casting very well at the minute and the no1 in scotland !!!

[Haggis_Tosser]

hi there haggis tosser or ian,are you the guy that came 2nd behind danny the other week when he did them massive casts, i just twigged on yest after i sent you reply on thread ,if you live in scotland you must have some traveling pity there was no uksf up north, mind yuou bazzzzzzzzzz the ballerina has some traveling hes from outer space deff not from this planet
john

Yes and yes. Just under 2500 miles in the past 10 days to attend 2 events!
HT

[john/r]

well as the thread says copying casts i have never seen yours to copy yet it must be good obviosly

[Haggis_Tosser]

Mine is a copy (albeit a poor copy!) of PT's; I just cant get his hight.

[josh]

I'm very much of the opinion if you cant bend it, it wont go!!!

As for copying styles, just to mirror what has already been said, I think everybody has aspects of other peoples casts in their own, whether hi or flat it has all been done before.

Everybody's cast is there own.