Originally posted by big_sean
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I do thank you.
Thanks Coddy.
Its a general comment about things that happened with the miners and the wages they were on, i did not support the strike but I could see why they were led out but the fact remains that more pits were shut due to the strike and communities were destroyed and this should have never happened, but the goverment couldnt back down as it would have been devestating for the country as a whole. and that is the last i will say on it as i have my view and you have yours.
As for my Roots I served my time in a centre in Teeside and finished off on the Powerstations, and moved around the contry following the work and yes i went to europe when there was no work here, but I will say one thing we had a brilliant work force and some were the best in the world but we had a work ethic which was sinking us hence why the shipyards closed and the industrys collapsed, I was fortunate enough to work my way into a very big boiler repair company and work my way through to a very good job but I never had it handed to me on a plate I study each night for about 4 hours doing a degree which will give me a better pay, each weekend I study for about 10 hours as well. I have sen what the unions did and the guys who were running them never suffered the only ones who suffered where the men who believed in them. when i was working in holland i was working with lots of newcastle guys and scottish guys all who were great workers but the dutch made sure you did a good shift some of the guys hated it as you had your jobs measured so they knew how much you had done, some guys would moan and say things like I am doing a weeks work a day, But to be honest 5 hours graft and you had done enough to satisfy your 10 hours. it amazed me they could build a ship 5 times quicker than we could in the uk and use our labour amazing.
I once worked for a shipyard in Hull and they had got behind on one of their orders so they had brought in a welding engineer who proposed using Semi automatic welding process and this would do the ship and get it on time, now 300 men were employed in there but after this one was finished it would have gone down to 100 to do the next 5 ships better they kept the place open in my eyes than let it go bust for late delivery, the union had a vote to strike if they brought a faster welding process in. good old uniond the yard is now extinct
we all have different views
Sean
Thanks Coddy.
Its a general comment about things that happened with the miners and the wages they were on, i did not support the strike but I could see why they were led out but the fact remains that more pits were shut due to the strike and communities were destroyed and this should have never happened, but the goverment couldnt back down as it would have been devestating for the country as a whole. and that is the last i will say on it as i have my view and you have yours.
As for my Roots I served my time in a centre in Teeside and finished off on the Powerstations, and moved around the contry following the work and yes i went to europe when there was no work here, but I will say one thing we had a brilliant work force and some were the best in the world but we had a work ethic which was sinking us hence why the shipyards closed and the industrys collapsed, I was fortunate enough to work my way into a very big boiler repair company and work my way through to a very good job but I never had it handed to me on a plate I study each night for about 4 hours doing a degree which will give me a better pay, each weekend I study for about 10 hours as well. I have sen what the unions did and the guys who were running them never suffered the only ones who suffered where the men who believed in them. when i was working in holland i was working with lots of newcastle guys and scottish guys all who were great workers but the dutch made sure you did a good shift some of the guys hated it as you had your jobs measured so they knew how much you had done, some guys would moan and say things like I am doing a weeks work a day, But to be honest 5 hours graft and you had done enough to satisfy your 10 hours. it amazed me they could build a ship 5 times quicker than we could in the uk and use our labour amazing.
I once worked for a shipyard in Hull and they had got behind on one of their orders so they had brought in a welding engineer who proposed using Semi automatic welding process and this would do the ship and get it on time, now 300 men were employed in there but after this one was finished it would have gone down to 100 to do the next 5 ships better they kept the place open in my eyes than let it go bust for late delivery, the union had a vote to strike if they brought a faster welding process in. good old uniond the yard is now extinct
we all have different views
Sean
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