I.D. Cards

[Davyred]

Just read Marks post and have one thing to say.

TC, is there any chance of an automatic spell check on this site

[mark]

[Edited on 5/7/2005 by mark]

[mark]

No chance Davey, I\'m keeping mine for the revolution, flour bombs that is.

come the revolution it wil be eccles cakes all round!

[Charlton]

About to give up you missed the point again, wrong doers are using the human rights act to get away with mureder. Whoever heard of keeping evidence back which proves someone gulity just because it could have broke his human rights.
PS please ranslate your last post Mark.

pps Will be buns with double whipped cream for me and no shouting that contravenes the human rights act.

[mark]

examples of use of human rights legislation used in this way please

[Charlton]

Read the papers, mind you cant belive anything you read in the papers.


PS from a previous post
I have mentioned previously that Human rights have gone to far and not used for what they are meany for protecting the innocent from the gulity, which seems to upset mark, hope he has seen todays papers, British Intelligence agencies ahve had to withold evidnce which would ensure that Saddam Hussain was found gulty and hanged, why because it would be against his humna rights as the EU does not have a death penalty. What about the poor people in his country who where slaughtered in their millions.

[Edited on 5/7/2005 by Charlton]

[DaveMason]

Alan charlton , next time you speak to your South African daughter in law ask her about the \"Pass\" laws . I lived in South Africa and my Black assistant was so badly beaten by the police i hardly recognised him . Broken jaw the works , his \"Crime\" ? I sent him to the shops to get me some fags and he forgot his ID card and was lifted by the Cops . Cannot happen here ??? You sure ? Remember the miners strike when people were lifted for nothing , anybody that says you have nothing to fear if your \"innocent\"are dreaming .

There are many counties in the world with compulsory ID systems (I\'ve worked in most of them ) , and they ALL use them to suppress the people . Before you make up your mind on them consider this , there is NO going back once you have them .

[Charlton]

Dave spoke to a lot of people in South Africa on the occassions i was out there. Heard all about the pass laws. Some of the people i met where very interesting and to me unsong heroes, they had spent a good few years in goal speaking up against aparteid, especially some of the white union workers who stood up for black workers. Some of these ordinary people should put pen to paper. My pre conception of South Africa was that all whites agreed with aparteid and all areas where effceted, until i started looking into it before i went and talking to my son. The Transki was a typical example of a vast area telling the then government to get lost. When i told some boers that i intended to drive through the Transki, they said i would not make it out the other end. Wonderful place and wonderful people. I suppose it is how you treat other people how they respond.

Dave one Q why didnt you go and get your own fags

[Edited on 6/7/2005 by Charlton]

[Davyred]

Cos he had an assistant, its called delegation

[Charlton]

Hmmm

[DaveMason]

I wish i had of went Alan , it cost me 100 rand to bail the poor sod and more for his treatment . Respect to you for driving through the Transkei , i would\'nt

[Charlton]

Felt pretty safe, had the wife with me, but jesus the traffic cops, think the locals where a bit baffled at me giving them the nod to slow down.

[mark]

[Edited on 28/7/2005 by mark]

[Charlton]

agree on one point that nothing can stop terrorist acts and id cards would not help track the suspects down. But believe DNA data bank would. That is the last word i am having on the subject as far as i am concerned the ID/DNA subjcet is now finished.

[alan]

how do you know that Mark,should try and give them a chance to find some evidence or dna,lets face it its only twelve hours from when it happened
This puts Human Rights into perspective