I.D. Cards

[Mike.Haley]

I.D. cards will not stop terrorism. The last terrorist that was caught had four different types of identification cards from three diffwerent countries in his posession yet he was only caught by accident when the police raided a house in London. The biggest threat to this country is Tony Blair and His marster George Bush.

[Davyred]

Have a look at the reasons for an ID card... to cut crime, fight terrorism and illegal immigration amongst others.

This country has become far too soft. If it wasn\'t, we\'d have no problems with illegal immigration, car thieves, \'hoodies\', etc etc.

Its about time this country ditched its \'PC\' outlook - the Trafalgar anniversary during the week summed this country up. We didn\'t want to upset France or Spain, so it had to be the Reds against the Blues Bollocks! Do you think France or Spain would have gave a toss if it was the other way round!?! It\'s our history and heritage, we should be shouting it from the rooftops, showing the world what a great nation we USED to be.

We are run by little cowards who haven\'t got the balls to stand up and fight for the REAL values the majority of this country wants.

A 109 year old Royal Navy vet of WW1 and WW2, who was at the Trafalgar celebration, said this in the paper yesterday....

\"Its important to tell people what the navy has done for everyone. We stopped Napoleon, the Kaiser and Hitler. People wouldn\'t be living life as they do if it wasn\'t for the navy\".

This poor bloke, and all the other veterans of wars this country has fought in, must wonder what this country has become - what the hell did they fight for???

Get Hard with criminals, get hard with immigration and get this country its self respect back.



[Edited on 1/7/2005 by Davyred]

[Edited on 1/7/2005 by Davyred]

[Mike.Haley]

I think you,ve hit the nail on the head there Dave.

[alan]

I dont have a problem with the ID card idea but I dont agree that you have to pay for them.I think the people against ID cards would soon change there minds if there was a massive terrorist attack on the UK,it could happen and maybe it will one day,I would sooner have big brother watching me than some faceless Tw#t wiping out thousands of UK citizens,thats includes my family and yours btw,nuff said

[Davyred]

Totally agree Alan.

[Mike.Haley]

Alan, if there was a massive terrorist attack on the Uk I dont think I.D. cxards would be of much use. A few anti aircraft missiles, machine guns and flak guns maybe of some help, but throwing I.D cards at rogue airoplanes wont have much effect.

[mark]

[Edited on 28/7/2005 by mark]

[Charlton]

Obvioulsy having an id card and a dna data base will not stop the likes of terrorists anyone who thinks it will is barmy or the nutter who goes on a shooting spree. But a dna data bank would be able to solve what is now coming the run of the mill crimes, rape, burglary to muredr, and hopefully rather than solve some of these crimes the perpetrator would think twice about doing premeditated acts as he knew he would be caught. And of course as in everything progress will make it easier ti track dna in the future. Just think the effcet it would have, car, home insurance would drop. And when the crimes figures would start to drop, not saying it would happen over night, but might make it a lot safer for our kids in the future.

[SIXFOOTSTEVE]

Just caught that Bert lol .I\'mm all for the I.D. cards ,as mentioned if you\'ve done nothing wrong then there\'s nothing to fear ,might winkle out a few badduns .

[mark]

[Edited on 28/7/2005 by mark]

[Mike.Haley]

I agree with Mark. Why should we be forced to carry I.D cards and I along with Mark and, I believe, a few thousand others will not be coerced by this government or any other into doing so. Our parents and there parents before them fought in wars so we would be free to choose. This government is going to undo all thier sacrifices.

[Charlton]

Sorry read all the arguments my mind remains unchanged, i still belive everyone in the country should have an id card with picure, finger prints etc (paid for by the government) except they will prodably put up taxes to do this and we pay anyway, and a sample of their dna. One conclusion I have come to, have you noticed in any arguement the anti\'s always put up the most vociferous arguement.

[mark]

[Edited on 28/7/2005 by mark]

[Charlton]

can\'t remeber saying it was bad anywhere, but think about bait digging and fishing the minority always make the most noise and quite often get there way

[alan]

you ever fancied going into politics Mark