A certain top South coast Match angler

[ray]

brian talking of not being able to afford bits of paper ive just recently found out ive got to pay 190 every two year just to work in security plus i have to go on a 600 quid course that the company pay for mind you they are saying if we leave the firm within two years we have to pay them back all these new rules and regulations are just making the goverment more money

[Ell]

Rex Hunt doesn\'t cheat.


Yibbida Yibbida

Thank yer mother for ther rabbit

We\'d all love to punch Matt Hayes in the face though, come on fess up, you know you would! :P

[boblydon]

Norman..fitting a marine radar ( at least the one i have ) takes no more skill thathan fitting a fish finder or chart plotter, as long as you know how to push in a premoulded plug into the radome and another the back of the display unit the job is done.............................dont know how to use it though, or the fish finder and plotter come to think about it lol lol.
Anway that opens up another topic ,which we have all brought up in the past that there is no legal obligation to have any sort of licence or training to operate a boat, even having adequate insurance is up to the opereater/owner

[mark]

Norman..fitting a marine radar ( at least the one i have ) takes no more skill thathan fitting a fish finder or chart plotter, as long as you know how to push in a premoulded plug into the radome and another the back of the display unit the job is done.............................dont know how to use it though, or the fish finder and plotter come to think about it lol lol.
Anway that opens up another topic ,which we have all brought up in the past that there is no legal obligation to have any sort of licence or training to operate a boat, even having adequate insurance is up to the opereater/owner

still got my RYA use of radar at sea text book from the marine and tech somehwere bob if you want a borrow

[boblydon]

thanks Mark, but i was only kidding i did my radar course this year at south tyneside college.............cheers for the offer though

[mark]

was nearly 20 years ago when I did em, so I suspect things will have changed....lots!

very primitive kit by comparison to days wizzardy

thought about doing a couple of the RYA courses again this year, what did it cost you if you don\'t mind me asking??

[gag1]

Ray. I also work in Security and these costs you are on about must be for the new Licensing scheme mate. Your Employer should meet these costs and if they dont, seek out a new company mate. I can understand that your employer might want the money back off you if you leave your employment within two years of him paying the fees but you shouldnt have to pay the bi-annual fee mate.

cheers.
george.

[bribones]

a boat i suppose in many aspects can be compared to a car ,just as dangerous in the wrong hands ,yet no insurence no steering/driving test ,makes you wonder ,but back to the subject of electrics ,how is fitting a spur any more difficult than fitting a plug ?as long as common sense is used and proper shielding etc its a 5 min job bar the chasing out ,i think the rules will need amending if there to have any affect

[john.frain]

i think what we should remember is that we do things in life that we want to do and also to become, for instants i served my time in the ship yards doing marine plumbing and also went to college to do domestic plumbing. Now this was my choice to do this, to become a fully qualified plumber. This is the same for all people whatever industry they work in they want to become qualified and must become qualified.
Yeah in the real world people are doing work that they should not be doing but thats life. what the government is trying to do is to erradicate these people who are trading as tradesmen when they are not yes they may have plenty experience but no paperwork.The point is that this is ruining the industry thus causing all these new regs, qualifications etc.

give it a year and things will settle down lol

john

[mark]

i think what we should remember is that we do things in life that we want to do and also to become, for instants i served my time in the ship yards doing marine plumbing and also went to college to do domestic plumbing. Now this was my choice to do this, to become a fully qualified plumber. This is the same for all people whatever industry they work in they want to become qualified and must become qualified.
Yeah in the real world people are doing work that they should not be doing but thats life. what the government is trying to do is to erradicate these people who are trading as tradesmen when they are not yes they may have plenty experience but no paperwork.The point is that this is ruining the industry thus causing all these new regs, qualifications etc.

give it a year and things will settle down lol

john

but once again its the man in the street that wants to do a bit to his own property that\'ll no doubt suffer more.

why not just say, operating professionally as a plumber/sparky is illegal - end of.

works for accountants/solicitors etc. Illegal to practice as a solicitor but not illegal for joe public to do his own conveyancing, and if he screws up it his own fault, if you think about it that is true of nearly all professions, doctors, architects, surveyors, estate agents, financial consultants. you can do the job of all of them for yourself with no legal redress.

As I see it I could stick an ad in the paper tomorrow, offering electrical services and the only time I\'m likely to be preosecuted is whe they catch me out, which might be never

[Clare]

The sad fact of todays society is that we are fast becoming a compensation culture and if anything goes wrong then someone gets their arses sued to buggery. And in someplaces we are fast becoming a rip off culture as well and there are some out there who want to rip your eyes out for a pile of ****e that they call work and the legislation is there to protect the many from the few who will and have done this......the more people I see coming into my office to gain their qualification the better....at least that way we have a fighting chance..

[boblydon]

Mark, cant remember wether it was 25 or 35 quid, whichever it was it was good value for money, gives you a good basic idea of the unit and what it does

[bribones]

but once again its the man in the street that wants to do a bit to his own property that\'ll no doubt suffer more. why not just say, operating professionally as a plumber/sparky is illegal - end of.

i agree get rid of the cowboys but why should a bloke who wants to do the work himself on his own property not have the right to do so ?
red tape makes me sick

[boblydon]

simply because that man in the street ends up selling his house to some unlucky bugger that has paid good money for the property that some unqulified cowboy has bodged up, then the said man has to pay again to have it put right.
at least with the new laws coming in he will have redress on the person that sold him the property therefore it is up to the house owner to compensate accordingly, i laugh at all these unqualified people who say the jobs are easy to do...do they Know the regs ?? do they have the correct tools ( meters ) to take the rellavent readings ??? AND for those that have the the experience sit the exams and pass....after all it has been said that its easy!!!!! i think NOT otherwise everyone would be doing it legally

[sless]

what month was it again