A certain top South coast Match angler

[Hiram.A.Biff]

Id Guess he was incredibly ugly in a spectaled toothy kind of way
I worked with a lad who visited a certain bearded giggly TV anglers shop in Norfolk, and bought his son a book, J**n W***S**s fishing, or sumat., then the bstd asked for £2.50 extra for an autograph.
He was told in nee uncertain terms to keep it.

[TC]

Cheers Davy....Yep, I appreciated the way you\'d worded your post.

Alan.....not nit-picking.....BUT.....what was reported on here wasn\'t reported by an \"eye witness\".............\"Was talking to my cousin yesterday about his son being in a feature in the Sea Angler with a Tuna (I think) caught in Gran Canaria. In the same feature, the author (see title) is seen with a big fish. My cousin tells me that...........\"

Without wanting to denegrade Davys\' cousin......
What \"actual incident\"?.....I didn\'t see it and nor did Davy, for that matter. Therefore, the detail provided IS \"second hand information\".

[Ell]

[Edited on 13/1/2005 by Ell]

[mark]

nanny stateism. you seen the new eleccy reg\'s??

We the general public are now not deemed sensible enough to touch electrical wiring. you can change a light switch face unit or plug socket face unit...but not in a bathroom or kitchen Eh?? whats the difference.

we cannot so much as touch a bit of wiring

only NIC registered installers can do that, and it now costs a grand to be registered!

[Ell]

[Edited on 13/1/2005 by Ell]

[boblydon]

Mark thats nowt compared to being CORGI registered, as from the 1st april this year we have to report every gas job we do to the local authority, also any wiring we do ie wiring up boilers or their controls.............from next year you wont be able to sell your house with out a home owner pack, this MUST include full details of ALL gas and electricity work, servicing and inspections of any work in those catorgorys...also from april this year we can only install condensing boilers ( without very very good reason not to ).
It may sound like i do not agree with the changes but that could not be further from the truth, it will mean more work ( and money ) for those qualified trades persons and more important a better standard of workmanship for the customer........................AND DRIVE THE COWBOYS OUT OF TOWN, the plumbing, heating and electrical trades have , for to long now had a bad reputation as allways down to a minority of cowboys, with legislation changes lets hope this changes.
I attend many properties both domestic and commercial as see the ****e that is produced by both cowboys and property owners.............. THESE CHANGES COULD NOT HAVE COME SOON
ENOUGH..........sorry to rant on about this in this thread but you may have guessed it is something i feel strongly about

[mark]

Fully understand where you are coming from bob, there\'s nothing worse than having a bodge job to recover.

certainly anyone who earns a crust as a sparky or a plumber fair enough, they ought to have \'official\' registration and some sort of indmnity. but surely we have the right as free individuals to do what we like in our own homes. what next?? Certificate of digging?? Can\'t dig your own garden unless you\'re trained in digging cos you might injure yourself and need medical attention,

or \"I\'m arresting you for crossing the road without a valid certifacte of \'road crossing capability\"

I\'ve got an honours degree in elctronic and electrical engineering, yet I\'m not allowed to go near a plug socket in me kitchen.

FWIW on the plumbing front, we got an open range in the kitchen circa 1930, big open fire, surrounded by ovens with a backboiler. several plumbers came and looked at it and said, nope can\'t run central heating from that.

did it myself and it has kept 6 radiators toasty for 5 years now.

[Davyred]

In that case, does anyone know of a good sparky who\'ll take a live feed into my shed? Was going to do it myself, but....

Just thought, Would B+Q stop selling electrical/gas/water DIY products to the general public on the back of what Bob and Mark have just said?

[mark]

no. B&Q etc have already said they will still sell the complete range of all electrical and plumbing fittings to the general public

[boblydon]

one of the problems with the big superstores is that they dont care who they sell what to, it is not against the law to sell or buy the items, only to install them.
One difference with you though Mark is that you have a good electrical background, many people have know idea at all, these are primarily the people that the law is issued for, also i come accross this when people have bought houses from these DIY experts and have then had to pay alot of moeny to have bodged work corrected, these are the people the law has been made to protect, therefore if a property owner does come accross such bodged work they now have some course of redress on either the owner or contracter in question

[boblydon]

should also have added, i have never came acrross an instance of somebody digging there garden and leaving a potentially dangerous situation, on the other hand i have inspected many potential gas and electrical instalations and been asked to give a report.
i can also see what you mean by big brother telling you what you can and cant do.........but surely when it could be someones life we are talking about it raises the stakes somewhat

[mark]

ahh yes \'experts\' I\'ve come across a few in me time, especially the \"i\'m a coimputer expert\" variety

if you want something doing what you need is a professional not an expert

[sless]

yippee i can get someone to wire in all my shutters for me

makes my job easier

[mark]

I agree to a point bob, but if you expanded that a bit, nothing more dangerous than motor cars, but everyone has repaired a car at some time, none of whom were qualified, wiring your house is only likely to ccause damage to anyone inside it. driving a car you\'ve got a lot more targets. So why not prevent everyone from fixing cars.

I don\'t have a problem with the fact that there are some eejits out there, when I bought this house the switches in the kitchen were all switch neutral, which I discoverd when changing a bulb, woke me up mind.

But what happened to personal responsibility. If you want to screw why shouldn\'t you do it yourself .

[sless]

getting back to the original post

what issue magazine was it in
thanks