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  • #16
    Originally posted by harry barker View Post
    Everyone has the right to enjoy there water sports,be it fishing,boating,sailing and jet skiers.
    But I find the jet skiers seem at times to be irresponsible in there enjoyment of there sport.
    I speak from a incident that happened to me a couple of years ago,I had my boat moored in Sunderland Marina and on this lovely Sunday morning I planned a sail up the wear to the a19 bridge.
    Set off 3 hrs before hw with tide and light winds taking me and Susken up the river,this was my first trip up and it was very enjoyable seeing the wildlife and greenery once passed the wearmouth bridge it became very peaceful only a few people walking the banks and a few anglers fishing.
    I got up to the a19 about hw and did a turn to come back down on the ebb tide,I moved over to port side of river but couldn't go to close due to my 6ft draft,I noticed a fast moving jet skier with two people on board as they got along side me he did a 180 turn very fast towards me I think with the intent to give me a good wet spraying,but the skier started to skid across the tide and rammed me side on.
    On the jet skier was a young kid on the back and as they bounced off my hull
    the kid nearly fell off but he was definitely hurt as I could hear him crying as
    the driver sped away.
    I was also concerned for my boat because of the impact but at 6tons and heavily built I had no worries.

    On returning to the marina I reported this to the marina staff which in turn reported this to the wear harbour control,but the problem is these jet skiers have no identification numbers shown on there hull so I could only give colours red,blue and white.....have you seen any with these colours maybe with a bit of yellow as well.
    To sum up I would say jet skiers must show large numbers on there hull and this should be enforced by the river authority and I would also like to see some rya 1st line training and insurance being compulsory for these crafts.

    If this was the case you could have went to the skiers and claimed your rod loss on his insurance and in my case and damage to my boat.
    cheers H
    good post mate, i agree with the identification numbers, what if they killed someone, how would we point them out?????

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    • #17
      Jet skeirs

      Yes good point mate,that I never thought about...............is there any jet skiers on this forum ? I'm not wanting to have a go ....but what is your thoughts because I might be incorrect in assuming they don't have insurance.
      Always two sides to this I would like to hear yours.
      Cheers H

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      • #18
        Me and my mate fished the groyne think i have spelt it right lol any way the other Sunday and there was sailing boats and jet skis bombing about all over the place and they come in very close to the groyne but when they see ya they move out a bit well this big fat pudding thought he was great in front of his mates and he said f*** them watch this luckily we heard him and drop our rods down or both of our rods would of went in and him and his mate thought it was funny i would love to get me hands on him and stick his jet ski up his a*** but not all the lads with jet skis are like this its just the minority that gives them a bad name just like the plums that leave litter about gives us anglers a bad name.
        Feel free to take a look at my blog.

        http://edds-fishingtales.blogspot.com/

        Cheers eddie t

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        • #19
          If any prat on a jet ski wants to play and tries to pull my gear in then they are fair game for a lead thrown at them. If they don't want that to happen go play somewhere else.
          I would not turn up and cast into an area they are doing whatever **** they do so it works both ways.
          I agree its only a few but they are the ones that stand out
          THE PSYCHIC BIKER

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          • #20
            i fished the groyne last sunday aswell and nearly lost my rod to the sailing boats i seen them all coming in and they all missed my line then there were 2 more a cany way out so i started messing about in my box then turned round there was a catermarang coming in about 15-20 yard off the groyne luckyily i seen it my line got stuck in the middle of the 2 parts of it, had a good battle trying to reel him in but it just slowed him down lol he tryed getting the line out by reversing but i was stuck on something on his boat, dont no why he couldnt just go another 20 yards out i had bright yellow line he must of seen it. when i go practice casting on the beach i always watch out for them but it doesnt seem like they care about us or our fishing gear, worst thing was i just filled my reel up before i went with new line only had 2 chucks got a half kilo spool of ultima distance here and its only give me bad luck lol

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            • #21
              Originally posted by gary2010 View Post
              i fished the groyne last sunday aswell and nearly lost my rod to the sailing boats i seen them all coming in and they all missed my line then there were 2 more a cany way out so i started messing about in my box then turned round there was a catermarang coming in about 15-20 yard off the groyne luckyily i seen it my line got stuck in the middle of the 2 parts of it, had a good battle trying to reel him in but it just slowed him down lol he tryed getting the line out by reversing but i was stuck on something on his boat, dont no why he couldnt just go another 20 yards out i had bright yellow line he must of seen it. when i go practice casting on the beach i always watch out for them but it doesnt seem like they care about us or our fishing gear, worst thing was i just filled my reel up before i went with new line only had 2 chucks got a half kilo spool of ultima distance here and its only give me bad luck lol

              I know what you mean mate,I'm a shore angler and I do a lot of sailing as well.
              Some times it looks like the sailing boat is deliberate trying to run your line
              down but nine times out of ten he's not.
              With a sailing boat he can only sail something like 40 degrees into the wind
              to make forward progress it may look like he's heading towards your end gear
              but the wind direction determines his movements over the water.

              I can honestly say I would try to avoid anglers lines as this is a danger to
              the sailors and his boat to have endgear leads and hooks flying over his
              decks.
              A good example of a problem area is Sunderland north pier and more so the old north pier(rathouse area along that length of pier).Not very wide.

              All shipping and sailing boats when approaching the pier must keep over to port side that's on entering the river,so that means going very close to the pier right hand side,because all vessels passing must past port to port,if I'm
              sailing in and there's no traffic I will try and give the pier a wide berth but it's not always possible if there's other boats coming out to sea.
              Also I have at times been instructed by the harbour master via vhf radio to move over to the right hand side of the river because of a large ship starting to make way but it looks like there's nothing there and would seem to the anglers on the pier this move is deliberate to catch the anglers lines....it's not.

              Long winded I know but hope it helps with anglers and boats in confined harbours and entrances.
              Cheers H

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              • #22
                ?????????two of the same posts,don't know what happened there ......sorry

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by harry barker View Post
                  ?????????two of the same posts,don't know what happened there ......sorry
                  Sorted

                  Ali
                  UKCC Level 2 Game Angling Coach

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pottsy View Post
                    Sorted

                    Ali
                    Thanks Ali,
                    H

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                    • #25
                      as soon as he got my line i started puling up on my rod which slowed him down and he new he had my line so he tryed going backwards, and i walked alot the groyne to get the line out the middle of his boat then pointed in the water to go underneath and got caught on something under the boat, then the guy tried to free it again but would come free so he just went full speed a head and snaped my line after a while, there was about 20 other sailing boats came in he was the second last to come in and the only 1 to get close to my line, think he just had no care for anything else except gettin round the groyne, there were 2 jetskis being more careful than him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by harry barker View Post
                        I know what you mean mate,I'm a shore angler and I do a lot of sailing as well.
                        Some times it looks like the sailing boat is deliberate trying to run your line
                        down but nine times out of ten he's not.
                        With a sailing boat he can only sail something like 40 degrees into the wind
                        to make forward progress it may look like he's heading towards your end gear
                        but the wind direction determines his movements over the water.

                        I can honestly say I would try to avoid anglers lines as this is a danger to
                        the sailors and his boat to have endgear leads and hooks flying over his
                        decks.
                        A good example of a problem area is Sunderland north pier and more so the old north pier(rathouse area along that length of pier).Not very wide.

                        All shipping and sailing boats when approaching the pier must keep over to port side that's on entering the river,so that means going very close to the pier right hand side,because all vessels passing must past port to port,if I'm
                        sailing in and there's no traffic I will try and give the pier a wide berth but it's not always possible if there's other boats coming out to sea.
                        Also I have at times been instructed by the harbour master via vhf radio to move over to the right hand side of the river because of a large ship starting to make way but it looks like there's nothing there and would seem to the anglers on the pier this move is deliberate to catch the anglers lines....it's not.

                        Long winded I know but hope it helps with anglers and boats in confined harbours and entrances.
                        Cheers H
                        Very informative post Harry hope this helps to allay some of the bad feeling between anglers and boatys. We've had a few issues due to steering with our teeth and getting a bit close to allsorts We've always got on deck and tried the wavy wavy bit and miming reeling in motions which have always been met with nods of understanding - and frantic reeling reeling in! Not so much a problem these days unless you're spinning for driftwood in St. Pete's marina
                        "I mock thee not, though I by thee am mockéd.
                        Thou call'st me madman, but I call thee blockhead"

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Charlie_Thompson View Post
                          Very informative post Harry hope this helps to allay some of the bad feeling between anglers and boatys. We've had a few issues due to steering with our teeth and getting a bit close to allsorts We've always got on deck and tried the wavy wavy bit and miming reeling in motions which have always been met with nods of understanding - and frantic reeling reeling in! Not so much a problem these days unless you're spinning for driftwood in St. Pete's marina
                          Hahahaha.....nice one Charlie,was only trying to give answers to both sides of the argument.

                          You not doing much lately then,been told it's bad navigation in and out of St.Peters basin.
                          Best of luck with your project and hope you get back on the water soon.
                          Cheers H

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