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  • #16
    scotland yes

    go for it scotland just a shame northen england cant leave with u

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Pighunter View Post
      How is it non sense? Do Scotland want to use England's army and currency ? Has Scotland not been subsidised by the English government? And do they still require subsidisation after independence? I think you will find the answer is yes. So in what world is that independence?
      1. It is not England's pound, it is the UK pound, as much ours as any other UK country.
      2. It is not England's army, it's the UK army, with a higher % of Scots per head of population that any other UK country.
      3. Scotland has not been subsidised by "the English" government. It is the UK government and we have not been subsidised by them either.

      So the answer to all your questions is no and by using the term English when actually you mean the UK is a big part of why we Scots feel as we do!
      Last edited by kayos; 15-09-2014, 08:57 AM.
      2016 - Cod, Dab, Dogfish, Gurnard, Ling, Mackerel, Saithe, Scorpian fish. .

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      • #18
        Dear Scotland...

        I do hope it all goes smoothly on the 18th

        A yes vote please

        A few years to sort out all the little problems like immigration, border control, currency, oil, passports, armed forces, energy, nuclear sub bases, membership of NATO, membership of the UN, membership of EU..........


        sincerly and honestly, the very best of luck,

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        • #19
          Originally posted by easyfish1 View Post
          Dear Scotland...

          I do hope it all goes smoothly on the 18th

          A yes vote please

          A few years to sort out all the little problems like immigration, border control, currency, oil, passports, armed forces, energy, nuclear sub bases, membership of NATO, membership of the UN, membership of EU..........


          sincerly and honestly, the very best of luck,
          Dear Easyfish.

          It will be an unbelievably difficult process indeed. Perhaps the North East could help us out a bit and take the nuclear sub bases and all the missiles and store them on the Tyne please? I am getting fed up with them on the Clyde, they spoil the scenery!
          2016 - Cod, Dab, Dogfish, Gurnard, Ling, Mackerel, Saithe, Scorpian fish. .

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          • #20
            Originally posted by kayos View Post
            Dear Easyfish.

            It will be an unbelievably difficult process indeed. Perhaps the North East could help us out a bit and take the nuclear sub bases and all the missiles and store them on the Tyne please? I am getting fed up with them on the Clyde, they spoil the scenery!
            I thought the Tweed would be better... guarding the border..

            missiles pointed North..


            Any thoughts on which way it will go mark ( the vote ) ?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by easyfish1 View Post
              I thought the Tweed would be better... guarding the border..

              missiles pointed North..


              Any thoughts on which way it will go mark ( the vote ) ?

              I think the undecided are really just not telling the pollsters. I think 53% No, 47% yes or even as low as a 43% yes, with no 57%. I am convinced it will be a No.

              PS Not the Tweed, it would screw up the Elite's salmon fishing!
              Last edited by kayos; 15-09-2014, 09:38 AM.
              2016 - Cod, Dab, Dogfish, Gurnard, Ling, Mackerel, Saithe, Scorpian fish. .

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              • #22
                Scottish independence referendum, 2014 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                a very interesting read...

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                • #23
                  Indeed. Wikipedia is not as bad an information site as some would suggest.
                  2016 - Cod, Dab, Dogfish, Gurnard, Ling, Mackerel, Saithe, Scorpian fish. .

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                  • #24
                    So if the vote is yes then it will become GB, Northern Ireland and Scotland?

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                    • #25
                      One final point before I go and earn a crust is this - Politicians are notoriously out for themselves and their parties, therefore the Tories should be be rubbing their hands in glee, eargerly waiting for Scotland to vote yes. They would then unquestionably govern the rest of the UK for generations. The fact that they are not, tells you all you need to know about Scotland's contribution to the UK economy. Without oil, gas, fish stocks, whisky etc and a home for Trident the rest of UK would be infinitely poorer than they currently are. The politicians know this and that is why they want Scotland to stay inside the UK.

                      It is one thing for Scotland to prop up the UK economy, it is another thing completely to be accused by the uninitiated in the last few months, that we are some kind of subsidy junkies!
                      2016 - Cod, Dab, Dogfish, Gurnard, Ling, Mackerel, Saithe, Scorpian fish. .

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by OuTkast76 View Post
                        So if the vote is yes then it will become GB, Northern Ireland and Scotland?
                        Yes, or the UK and Scotland. GB is currently Scotland, England and Wales. The UK is the aforementioned but also includes Northern Ireland.
                        2016 - Cod, Dab, Dogfish, Gurnard, Ling, Mackerel, Saithe, Scorpian fish. .

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                        • #27
                          8.3% of UK population
                          32% of landmass
                          9.2% of GDP (with North Sea oil)
                          9.1% of UK tax revenue
                          9.3% of UK government spending


                          Scotland....

                          Is a northern territory of Britain
                          Where the queen goes on holiday
                          where we keep our nuclear weapons
                          where the British oil comes from....................

                          vote YES please..

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                          • #28
                            If yes would Shetland isles and the revenue from oil revert back to Denmark ?
                            Would every scot have to apply for new passport
                            Would all titled scots lose their titles
                            Every Scot I have asked and I work in Aberdeen so it's quite a few said it's only AS wants a yes vote
                            Next up Kingdom of Northumbria for independence, then we can excile mike Ashley and pardew

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by waldof View Post
                              If yes would Shetland isles and the revenue from oil revert back to Denmark ?
                              Would every scot have to apply for new passport
                              Would all titled scots lose their titles
                              Every Scot I have asked and I work in Aberdeen so it's quite a few said it's only AS wants a yes vote
                              Next up Kingdom of Northumbria for independence, then we can excile mike Ashley and pardew
                              Well if they did it would be Norway, not Denmark, but as the Shetland Isles joined Scotland in the 15th century, probably not!

                              My passport expired 3 months ago, I am waiting until Friday before renewing it!

                              Let's hope the Gentry lose their titles.

                              As and 40% plus!

                              Let's not forget that AS wanted a 2nd question on the referendum paper ie a choice betweem Independence and "Devo Max" Cameron said no. The reason AS wanted it was the yes vote at the time was stuck at around 30% and he didn't really believe he would win an Independence vote, so wanted a Devo Max as a 2nd choice. For exactly the same reason Cameron said no to Devo Max!

                              Be careful what you wish for David!

                              PS I am all for a Kingdom of Northumbria, or just come and join us.
                              Last edited by kayos; 15-09-2014, 08:11 PM.
                              2016 - Cod, Dab, Dogfish, Gurnard, Ling, Mackerel, Saithe, Scorpian fish. .

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kayos View Post
                                Well if they did it would be Norway, not Denmark, but as the Shetland Isles joined Scotland in the 15th century, probably not!

                                My passport expired 3 months ago, I am waiting until Friday before renewing it!

                                Let's hope the Gentry lose their titles.

                                As and 40% plus!

                                Let's not forget that AS wanted a 2nd question on the referendum paper ie a choice betweem Independence and "Devo Max" Cameron said no. The reason AS wanted it was the yes vote at the time was stuck at around 30% and he didn't really believe he would win an Independence vote, so wanted a Devo Max as a 2nd choice. For exactly the same reason Cameron said no to Devo Max!

                                Be careful what you wish for David!

                                PS I am all for a Kingdom of Northumbria, or just come and join us.
                                Surly mark you quoted government in power,these can be voted out along with any other people coming to power voted in/out yous lot vote yes and there's no going back what a massive gamble.

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