worlds best ever

[garyp]

Messi has been a let down this world cup, so far.

30 mins left to redeem himself.

Poor mans Peter Beardsley if you ask me

[Pighunter]

Messi has been a let down this world cup, so far.

30 mins left to redeem himself.

Poor mans Peter Beardsley if you ask me

Just spat my beer out funniest thing I have Hurd, excuses about being tired came out days ago, must be a hard life they have.

[garyp]

And he gets voted as player or the tournament???

Wtf?

[Pighunter]

Unreal rose tinted glasses come to mind

[OuTkast76]

To be fair he took the p**s out of most the teams he played against

[garyp]

I'm not saying he isn't any good, but to be named player of the tournament?

It's a team sport, and fortunately the one that actually played as a team won.

Messi, rooney, Ronaldo, etc brilliant players on their day, but you never see them putting in a shift like some of those germans did today

[OuTkast76]

Yes thats why its called player of the tournament and not team of the tournament, There wasnt that many great stand out players in this world cup and he solely won them a few games and pulled his team out the crap so deserves it imo

[garyp]

Yet he did absolutely nothing in what could be the biggest game of his career?

[OuTkast76]

I seen him run half the germany midfield and defence ragged quite a few times, He cant win every game on his own...

[garyp]

Not sure I seen that like?

However, the worlds biggest stage and he had one possibly two very good chances to score, yet didn't hit the target.

I don't believe he's done anything special at this world cup, maybe the odd cameo.

Top player, certainly, but not the best ever, no.

Players like Rodriguez or Muller, much more deserving of player of the tournament. But of course it has nothing to do with sponsors Lol

[OuTkast76]

Plenty of clips on youtube and he's human lol, Every single player in history misses chances including in finals.

Odd cameo? He walked through every team he played against and won games for them on his own..That is more than the odd cameo

What did them 2 do to deserve it more than him? Scored more goals?

[uncle fester]

world cup

do u think he will care what u think playing in the world cup is some thing u wont do local park may be

[garyp]

Ffs listen to yourself man.

John started the thread asking if messi is the best player in the world.

I have shown how I "think" that in my opinion he wasn't even the best player at the world cup.

Its a question of opinions, and that's mine.??

[garyp]

do u think he will care what u think playing in the world cup is some thing u wont do local park may be

Are you stalking me on the internet? Like a cyber bully?

Why aren't you using conoflexman user name now?

[LiamNE]

Have not had my say in this thread yet...and have not read it back, but to answer John's question is Messi the best ever - no
And that is not just based on last night's awful performance (although he inexplicably won the golden ball???)
C.Ronaldo has always been better in my opinion, he is the very definition of a complete footballer.

I'm a big footy fan and I think supporting a lower league team like I do (Hartlepool) makes you watch a lot more top league footy from all over the world. I've never seen anybody like Ronaldo in my 15-ish years of watching footy properly.

So is Ronaldo the best ever? - I dont know, because there are so many top players I have never seen play in years gone by

But is Messi the best ever? - No because Ronaldo is better than him
(please dont slate me with Balon D'or comments and so on...its just my opinion)