local tackle shops

[d-a]

most anglers use rhe net to buy fishihg tackle they save a few pennys but they cry when their local tackle shop closes use it or lose it springs to mind- ps i have not got any conection with tackle shops

[mark]

not just tackle shops, but shopping in general. I own a shop in town. I can count on one hand pretty much how many small independent retailers are left in the city centre

One thing that really boils my **** is the people that think you are some kind of free showroom. they come in to work out what they want, then go off to buy it on ebay. Ebay and Amazon are an absolute cancer on retail, especially the 'bedroom businessmen' who don't even have their 'business' registered with the taxman

and the irony of the stupid people that will come in, see what they want then go and sit in starbucks to use their wifi to buy it - spending 15 quid on crap coffee to save themselves a fiver

The other side of the problem is local councils do not give a damn. I've got a shop much smaller than most one bedroom flats. the council demand £19,000 a year in business rates!! yup £19k a year, and they won't even empty the bins for that. I am legally obliged to show evidence of a waste disposal contract to empty the bin - or pay the council another £750 a year - it works out at about £7.50 for every bin bag I put out. If I want to hand out flyers I have to apply to the council and pay for a licence to do so!

Folks don't see that though. rent and rates and insurances etc

I've got to put £1500 a week in the till to pay the bills and pay for the stock that is sold, before I can even think about taking a wage. and they get all uppity and think you are trying to rip them off when they try tell you can buy such and such on ebay for a fiver

[kayos]

I feel for you mate. I looked at shop rent prices recently with a friend as he was thinking of opening a shop with his redundancy money. I could not believe the rent and rates for really small shops! I truly have no idea how independent traders stay in business??

I occasionally use Ebay for 2nd hand items, but never for new products. It boggles the mind to think what Ebay earn in a year with charges for placing an item for sale and 10% commission on top!!

My partner is an Ebay and Amazon freak and no amount of discussing with her the consequences of shopping with these companies has any effect whatsoever!

Is it any wonder town centres are full of pound shops, bookies and amusements?

People being paid poverty wages does not help and is why so many new items we buy in the high street come from China, cheap and nasty is King.


It is a disgrace and the very fabric of our society is being ripped apart.

[mark]

Don't get me started on China!

selling direct to the UK on ebay at prices cheaper than they can be had wholesale. Little known fact but the wee grey mailer envelopes they put bits n pieces in cost the chinese nothing to post - think about it - as soon as they are on a plane to the west, it's the post office that handles them and delivers them, so the we, and the post office are subsidising chinese traders

and lets no forget the amazon and ebay tax loopholes so they pay virtually nothing in taxes in the UK!

another 5 or 10 years and most city centres will be a wasteland illuminated by the bright lights of starbucks and mcdonalds

[Davey1970]

not just tackle shops, but shopping in general. I own a shop in town. I can count on one hand pretty much how many small independent retailers are left in the city centre

One thing that really boils my **** is the people that think you are some kind of free showroom. they come in to work out what they want, then go off to buy it on ebay. Ebay and Amazon are an absolute cancer on retail, especially the 'bedroom businessmen' who don't even have their 'business' registered with the taxman

and the irony of the stupid people that will come in, see what they want then go and sit in starbucks to use their wifi to buy it - spending 15 quid on crap coffee to save themselves a fiver

The other side of the problem is local councils do not give a damn. I've got a shop much smaller than most one bedroom flats. the council demand £19,000 a year in business rates!! yup £19k a year, and they won't even empty the bins for that. I am legally obliged to show evidence of a waste disposal contract to empty the bin - or pay the council another £750 a year - it works out at about £7.50 for every bin bag I put out. If I want to hand out flyers I have to apply to the council and pay for a licence to do so!

Folks don't see that though. rent and rates and insurances etc

I've got to put £1500 a week in the till to pay the bills and pay for the stock that is sold, before I can even think about taking a wage. and they get all uppity and think you are trying to rip them off when they try tell you can buy such and such on ebay for a fiver

a really feel for you m8, the whole system is f***d up.

good luck to you

[garyp]

Just to say though, on the other hand, and going back to the OP.

I was looking at getting two new fathom reels last year, couple local shops wanted 135 -140 each, no discount.

Got the same two reels from another shop based down south, 100 quid each, with fiver delivery

Fair enough I understand local shops etc want to make a profit, but that's a canny mark up and the local shops lost a sale or two.

on flip side, I have been looking for kayak gear, went to shop in amble as I was there, bloke took time to explain what was what, pointed me away from the most expensive stuff, and even gave me a discount on what I bought, I will defo be shopping there again like.

[lead chucker]

Mark those rates seem criminal, why are they so much it hardly encourages any new business 's in town.

[mark]

where we are are some of the cheapest in Newcastle. The toon has the most expensive business rates in britain, northumberland street is know for being more expensive than even oxford street in london!

a company we deal with just took over the old Jacobs camera shop opposite where jessops was - rent and rates there - £74,000!!! 44 of that is business rates to the council!!!

its just a blanket tax on businesses - not services gotten for your money really - well, they sweep the streets I suppose, can't see what else I get for the money

[Codfather]

Bishop Auckland town center has changed a lot the last few years, getting near the ghost town stage now.

Out of pure nosey'ness, what shop do you have Mark ?

[lead chucker]

Wow, keeping the rich richer I suppose.

[mark]

Bishop Auckland town center has changed a lot the last few years, getting near the ghost town stage now.

Out of pure nosey'ness, what shop do you have Mark ?

kathmandu/kathman2 on old eldon square

not been to bishop for a while, watched it die slowly over the last 10-15 years, we're up in the dale so bishop was where we would shop if we didn't go into newcastle

[LiamNE]

the 'bedroom businessmen' who don't even have their 'business' registered with the taxman

Lads, if you know of things like this - PLEASE dont just have a moan about it - report it to the tax man. Theres plenty of ways to do it so no excuse.
You can even send me a PM and I will look into a case like Mark mentioned personally. They dont just come to an inspector and get thrown into the bin, there are small covert units of inspectors who specialize in this area and have the power to make them pay

Dont be afraid to report it!!

[fishingmark]

Pretty much nothing but pound shops and Boyes left in Bishop town centre,even Home Bargains are moving down to Tindale Crescent now. I work at M&S stores and I remember last year when that store closed, an old lady just couldn't understand that the store would be closing. She just kept saying " I know it's closing tomorrow but when will it be open again", really sad. Someone must be making a mint out of the new out of town development, that's what will be at the heart of it.

[Juliogeordio]

That's politicians for you... Don't live in the real world. I've no idea how you afford £1500 a week just to tick over mate. Best of luck to you for the future.

[waco]

[QUOTE=d-a;678974]most anglers use rhe net to buy fishihg tackle they save a few pennys but they cry when their local tackle shop closes use it or lose it springs to mind- ps i have not got any conection with tackle shops[/QUOTE#

i save more than a few pennies if fact most of my terminal tackle is close to half price and of decent quality, and most is free postage and as not have transport it can cost at least £4 bus fare to a tackle shop , in fact i have just recieved 100 longtails £4 free post they look very tidy not rough unlike some you buy and very strong