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  • #16
    rules/laws/geneva convention.

    he broke them all. We are supposed to be be civilised and way above their level. If he was already moribund and of no further risk, leave him there to die and get on with your job.

    A bigger question should be why did his colleague, who in the transcript knew they had done wrong, not only keep the video, but keep a copy of it on his own personal laptop??

    To me that is more twisted than the killing itself. Why did he need to keep that? If he had deleted it, nothing would ever have been heard of the whole incident

    As it is, we have to be seen to uphold the rules or we are no better than the terrorists we are fighting, and actions like this give them yet more reasons to go on the offensive. Unfortunate outcome for the soldier concerned, who may well have thought he was doing the guy a favour by ending him, but they are the rules of the game he signed up for, and he has to suffer the consequences

    He'll get military prison, and due to the nature of this will probably be well looked after
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    Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but bring a smile to your face when thrown down the stairs

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    • #17
      Originally posted by kayos View Post
      Cold blooded murder plain and simple. No better than the so called terrorists. Why are we even in Afghanistan??
      How dare you say he us no better than them, rememberance day tomorrow but one if iur lads is no better than a terrorist?
      It's war, he killed an enemy, they've got i.e.ds hidden all over the place,killing troops and civilians , cowards. the only crime commited here is that this lad has been charged, over 400 uk troops have been killed, the lad had completed numerous tours of duty and would have seen some horrific sites , and lost a lot of friends he's more of a hero than a criminal. This should never have been brought to trial and the info should not have been in the public domain , war is messy. The soldiers are heroes, every 1 of them

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      • #18
        Originally posted by eastpierlad View Post
        How dare you say he us no better than them, rememberance day tomorrow but one if iur lads is no better than a terrorist?
        It's war, he killed an enemy, they've got i.e.ds hidden all over the place,killing troops and civilians , cowards. the only crime commited here is that this lad has been charged, over 400 uk troops have been killed, the lad had completed numerous tours of duty and would have seen some horrific sites , and lost a lot of friends he's more of a hero than a criminal. This should never have been brought to trial and the info should not have been in the public domain , war is messy. The soldiers are heroes, every 1 of them
        another left wing reply from eastpier surprise surprise when he signed up to join the army it means you sign to war that does not give you the right to kill someone unless its self defence. If that's your opinion war is war and all the british soldiers killed by the i.e.ds are fine if war is war get of your racist fascist high horse you complete bell end

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        • #19
          Originally posted by eastpierlad View Post
          . the only crime commited here is that this lad has been charged,
          you better ring the police and let them know ....those who charged him are still free i think. if u need the number its 999 or if u prefer email them
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          • #20
            Originally posted by big phil 123 View Post
            another left wing reply from eastpier surprise surprise when he signed up to join the army it means you sign to war that does not give you the right to kill someone unless its self defence. If that's your opinion war is war and all the british soldiers killed by the i.e.ds are fine if war is war get of your racist fascist high horse you complete bell end
            You're an EMBARRASMENT lad, left wing? Really? U haven't got a clue, left wing? You obviously don't know your left from you're right! Why start a personal attack? You're obviously not too bright, left wing? Hahaha, daft plastic smb springs to mind!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by eastpierlad View Post
              You're an EMBARRASMENT lad, left wing? Really? U haven't got a clue, left wing? You obviously don't know your left from you're right! Why start a personal attack? You're obviously not too bright, left wing? Hahaha, daft plastic smb springs to mind!
              lad haha and you are the ultimate keyboard warrior you say all this on here but when offered to speak face to face you refuse. Your views are more floored than your husbands boxer shorts marra. You say its ok for a soldier to kill a person but say its wrong for the enemy to kill our soldiers in the same manner and excuse his behaviour by saying war is messy yes it is on both sides. your a spineless bitter racist fascist ****er and believe me I would love to tell it to your face

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              • #22
                Originally posted by big phil 123 View Post
                No he may not of chopped off his head but he executed him for no reason so he is just as bad. You cant condone his behaviour then have all out rage when someone else does it to one of our soldiers. Jus because he is a soldier does not give him any powers above the law. Yes he is fighting for queen and country but he did choose to do it no one forced him to be there. I have a massive respect for soldiers and think thy should be paid a lot more than the footballers but its never going to happen. However there is a big life risk when you sign up for the army or any forces and when people keep demanding our troops out from afghan and hostile places if the government could I am pretty sure they would


                Phil knows the score

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by big phil 123 View Post
                  lad haha and you are the ultimate keyboard warrior you say all this on here but when offered to speak face to face you refuse. Your views are more floored than your husbands boxer shorts marra. You say its ok for a soldier to kill a person but say its wrong for the enemy to kill our soldiers in the same manner and excuse his behaviour by saying war is messy yes it is on both sides. your a spineless bitter racist fascist ****er and believe me I would love to tell it to your face
                  oh dear! looks like the nesa rude word remover has stopped working!
                  ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ.

                  Thought for the day:
                  Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but bring a smile to your face when thrown down the stairs

                  Converting an MFV Fifie trawler type thing.

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                  • #24
                    Mmmm. Very hard to reply to this without stirring up more ****e.

                    But, after having spent 13 years in the army, been involved in the gulf 91 and later the Bosnia/ Kosovo ****e I believe I must have a say.

                    Firstly I served with very very few who got involved in the politics of it all. Most were just doing a job to get better qualifications, pay bills etc etc.

                    Secondly we don't know the state of this blokes mind, he may have had mates tortured and killed, he may have had all sorts running through his mind. Its not an excuse for his actions, but it is mitigating circumstances.

                    Thirdly, I find it ridiculous and sickening to say the our soldiers are no better than these lot?? So we hide bombs in baby's prams? Torture and execute people and publish the video because of what country they are from?? I could go on and on but best not.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by garyp View Post
                      Mmmm. Very hard to reply to this without stirring up more ****e.

                      But, after having spent 13 years in the army, been involved in the gulf 91 and later the Bosnia/ Kosovo ****e I believe I must have a say.

                      Firstly I served with very very few who got involved in the politics of it all. Most were just doing a job to get better qualifications, pay bills etc etc.

                      Secondly we don't know the state of this blokes mind, he may have had mates tortured and killed, he may have had all sorts running through his mind. Its not an excuse for his actions, but it is mitigating circumstances.

                      Thirdly, I find it ridiculous and sickening to say the our soldiers are no better than these lot?? So we hide bombs in baby's prams? Torture and execute people and publish the video because of what country they are from?? I could go on and on but best not.
                      good reply mate,respect for your time served. and surely being a racist fascist ****er is right wing not left? or maybe I don't know my left to my right!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mick303 View Post
                        good reply mate,respect for your time served. and surely being a racist fascist ****er is right wing not left? or maybe I don't know my left to my right!
                        Is that aimed at me?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mark View Post
                          oh dear! looks like the nesa rude word remover has stopped working!

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                          • #28
                            Whats the difference between our boy executing him to one of them executing one of ours?

                            And to garyp, respect for your service mate, its horrible they do use ****ty tactics but dont you think theyre up against it a bit?

                            What can they use to defend themselves against apaches and eurofighters etc?

                            We shouldnt even be there, 100k russians couldnt do anything with them, we certainly werent going to be able to with all these restrictions that are in place

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by garyp View Post
                              Is that aimed at me?
                              no mate just reading previous posts

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by big phil 123 View Post
                                lad haha and you are the ultimate keyboard warrior you say all this on here but when offered to speak face to face you refuse. Your views are more floored than your husbands boxer shorts marra. You say its ok for a soldier to kill a person but say its wrong for the enemy to kill our soldiers in the same manner and excuse his behaviour by saying war is messy yes it is on both sides. your a spineless bitter racist fascist ****er and believe me I would love to tell it to your face
                                you just spout utter crap pal, i said war is war, and that the enemy are cowards for hiding ieds which kill their own people and our soldiers!

                                Stop trying to appear hard, it doesn't work with me, the endless childish name calling is just boring.

                                You stated a while ago you offered to buy me a pint before the derby game ?(which was a load of crap as well!) probably the only one you've been to this season- if you even went! anyway you knew we were on police guarded transport and all fans were segregated, very childish. your trying too hard to make yourself look like the hard guy man. I do hope we do meet at some point though, we can discuss our differences then, in fact I'll tell you what, I fish cambois rocks regularly, feel free to pm me and we'll meet up down there for some fishing crack.

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