you have got to be kidding

[neil9629]

Can someone please tell me im not reading this right. Taxpayers foot £10,000 bill for failed asylum seeker's flying lessons - Telegraph.

Wtf is this country coming to ?

[The Jester]

Yeah, youre reading it right, it was on the news last night, canny few people not happy.....including me...

[nunthorpe mag]

Aye on Look North last night scandalous

[eastpierlad]

Yeah, youre reading it right, it was on the news last night, canny few people not happy.....including me...

and we're also paying for his brother to go to university! They couldn't get student loans due to their immigration status! you couldn't make this stuff up.

The council appealed and was shot down, just another case of the systems being abused. I'll stop there as the last time i got into an immigration type discussion it got out of hand!

Enoch powell had the right idea all those years , rivers of blood speech
ENOCH WAS RIGHT - Part 1 - YouTube

And before the "racist " comments are aimed at enoch (or me!) read this, written by rob sheperd, who studied enoch powell in great detail over a long period of time

The theory that Powell was motivated by racism was disproved when I again filmed Powell in 1993 for a Channel 4 series on post-war Britain, What Has Become Of Us, that I made with the historian, Peter Hennessy. Powell recalled on camera one of his finest parliamentary speeches, when he accused the Tory Government in 1959 of having failed African detainees who had beaten and murdered in British-ruled Kenya. Powell told us how, having savaged his fellow Tories, he sat down in the Commons and wept. As he spoke, we noticed the tears were flowing again, 34 years later. Powell's withering assault and his emotional reaction were not the behaviour of a racist

[neil9629]

He's dead now.....












The bnp skydiving club have said they could'nt understand why his mask and flippers did'nt open.

[broon shoe]

Yeah, youre reading it right, it was on the news last night, canny few people not happy.....including me...

The world has went stir crazy me thinks

[waco]

The world has went stir crazy me thinks

not the world gone crazy, its the british goverment that crazy, stories like this has been going on for years at the british peoples expense

[squidpie]

What next, Iranians over to study Nuclear fusion .

[The Plum]

20 grand alltogether read it and hes bros fees for uni thatl be another 10 makin it 30.ferrrrkkkkiiinnnn disgrace wtf boils me ****s

[billynobaits]

Im quite sure,this kid will not receive flying lessons,at the taxpayers
expense,as i imagine the government will intervene.The council,who
have been told by the courts,they must fund these two young men,
will be more than aware of the repercussions that will ensue,if they
accept this ruling.This is more than likely ,part of the reason the
media got hold of the story.
Remember how we weren't allowed to remove Abu Hamza,and others
recently,because the appeals courts,deemed it contrary to their human
rights?A way was found,because it would be political suicide,not to
have done so.
Now that every man and his dog,is aware of this story,politicians know
it is a powderkeg,and someone will intervene.Let us wait and see.

[mark]

20 grand alltogether read it and hes bros fees for uni thatl be another 10 makin it 30.ferrrrkkkkiiinnnn disgrace wtf boils me ****s

suspect it will be more than that. Uni fees are 9grand a year - for a 3 year course. plus 10 grand a year for living costs, that's £57k!

the problem with Enoch Powell, is that the rivers of blood speech gets miss quoted, one or 2 lines get taken out of context, and he is instantly a racist bigot and those that are too lazy to actually learn the facts take that on board as the be all end all without looking at the big picture of what the man did and said in a very long parliamentary career.

His forward thinking if you read him properly is becoming scarily accurate. he foresaw the rise of extremism on both sides, especially the far right, the rivers of blood speech was a warning against the decision to start a program allowing immigration to go unchecked and entitling those arriving to the full benefit of the welfare state and to legislate directly against questioning the process, an act which would in law define you as a racist:

Here is a decent, ordinary fellow-Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history

For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal



not the whole speech but three key paragraphs and see how much of it rings true

[billynobaits]

and we're also paying for his brother to go to university! They couldn't get student loans due to their immigration status! you couldn't make this stuff up.

The council appealed and was shot down, just another case of the systems being abused. I'll stop there as the last time i got into an immigration type discussion it got out of hand!

Enoch powell had the right idea all those years , rivers of blood speech
ENOCH WAS RIGHT - Part 1 - YouTube

And before the "racist " comments are aimed at enoch (or me!) read this, written by rob sheperd, who studied enoch powell in great detail over a long period of time

The theory that Powell was motivated by racism was disproved when I again filmed Powell in 1993 for a Channel 4 series on post-war Britain, What Has Become Of Us, that I made with the historian, Peter Hennessy. Powell recalled on camera one of his finest parliamentary speeches, when he accused the Tory Government in 1959 of having failed African detainees who had beaten and murdered in British-ruled Kenya. Powell told us how, having savaged his fellow Tories, he sat down in the Commons and wept. As he spoke, we noticed the tears were flowing again, 34 years later. Powell's withering assault and his emotional reaction were not the behaviour of a racist

You are wrong.in stating,'just another case of the systems being abused'.
Who is abusing the system here? It appears to me,that this avenue,must
have been made available to this lad,for him to want to pursue it.
No one in this country,asylum seeker,immigrant,or indeed indigenous,can
say 'erm,i want to fly helicopters/i want to be an astronaut/i want to
captain the royal yacht,unless the means to do so have been provided.
Therefore it is the system itself,not any individual,who is at fault.No one
can blame the kid for wanting this type of opportunity,it's just the
opportunity,which appears incredibly generous,should not be there in
the first place,especially during a period of austerity.

[billynobaits]

suspect it will be more than that. Uni fees are 9grand a year - for a 3 year course. plus 10 grand a year for living costs, that's £57k!

the problem with Enoch Powell, is that the rivers of blood speech gets miss quoted, one or 2 lines get taken out of context, and he is instantly a racist bigot and those that are too lazy to actually learn the facts take that on board as the be all end all without looking at the big picture of what the man did and said in a very long parliamentary career.

His forward thinking if you read him properly is becoming scarily accurate. he foresaw the rise of extremism on both sides, especially the far right, the rivers of blood speech was a warning against the decision to start a program allowing immigration to go unchecked and entitling those arriving to the full benefit of the welfare state and to legislate directly against questioning the process, an act which would in law define you as a racist:

Here is a decent, ordinary fellow-Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history

For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal



not the whole speech but three key paragraphs and see how much of it rings true

.HAHAHAHAHA!Talk about wastin yer time.You put this in for
Plum,when heez education consisted of how to knock a craw off its nest
with a benca an a black widda,then pinch its eggs!!!Thez mair brains in a
pavin flag!

[Motorhead]

How bright young talented British kids are out there that would like this opportunity? Most would be pilots in the UK work their socks off to pay for the lessons and borrow heavily if they want to go through to gain commercial licences. This is an insult to every hard working tax payer in the land. Something needs to be done and quickly to save the UK from this lunacy.

[billynobaits]

suspect it will be more than that. Uni fees are 9grand a year - for a 3 year course. plus 10 grand a year for living costs, that's £57k!

the problem with Enoch Powell, is that the rivers of blood speech gets miss quoted, one or 2 lines get taken out of context, and he is instantly a racist bigot and those that are too lazy to actually learn the facts take that on board as the be all end all without looking at the big picture of what the man did and said in a very long parliamentary career.

His forward thinking if you read him properly is becoming scarily accurate. he foresaw the rise of extremism on both sides, especially the far right, the rivers of blood speech was a warning against the decision to start a program allowing immigration to go unchecked and entitling those arriving to the full benefit of the welfare state and to legislate directly against questioning the process, an act which would in law define you as a racist:

Here is a decent, ordinary fellow-Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that the country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking – not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history

For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal



not the whole speech but three key paragraphs and see how much of it rings true

It's not fair! i crack a joke about buying blacks online,which in
no way could have been considered racist or inflammatory,it was merely
a play on words/double entendre,and it was deleted by you,leader of the
nesa Taliban,then you more or less say Enoch was right,and your post is
fine.....There's a saying...'sauce for the goose'.