can we talk about islam ?

[jack555]

And Christianity's better? It's a sin for looking at another woman and you should remove your eye. It's a sin to be gay its a sin for getting tattoos. It's a sin for farting religion it's self has more holes than a sieve not just Islam. A small minority have give it a bad name as it has a massive following you get extremists in all religions

Christianity is just as bad, we can have a little debate over that if you wish?

[cod magnet]

"Islam allows men to marry four women at a time"

that's bad...........you would of thought they'd of sussed out that 1 is definatly enough....

4 ? god help them.......

aye that would be toppa, and they do as there told

[jonny_s]

Islam is the religion of Intolerance,ignorance and hatred towards Non Muslims.(Hindus,Jews,Christian s) . Islam prohibits Muslims to be friendly to Non Muslims. Islam believes in the Holy War Jihad to spread itself. Islamic Prophet was a pedophile and murderer. Islam consider womens are inferior to men and can only inherit half Islam allows men to marry four women at a time. Islam allows husband to beat up wife under circumstances like a immature child. Islam consider womens inherit half intelligence then men. Islam demands death penalty for apostates. Islam is the copy of torah,bible and Vedas with Satanic Quran. Islam encourage pedophilia . Islam is anti-homosexuals and anti-humanity. . Islam is against women freedom. Islam is against freedom of speech creation of man, excuse to spill blood ;-)

My humble opinion is ' What a load of Bollox '

[neil9629]

My humble opinion is ' What a load of Bollox '

Have you read the quran/hadith ?
If you have then your opinion is noted.

[neil9629]

It still won't change no matter how much you post on a fishing forum.

I know of a bloke in the national front if you would like me to pass you over to him. Maybes he will LIKE to listen to the crap your talking.

I also know of a lad in the EDL I could also pass you over to him if you would like

Your friend in the nf is a racist bigot.
Chances are i already know your edl friend. http://db.tt/BMfdxPJi

[neil9629]

probably

but I wouldn't bank on the thread lasting long before it needs to be deleted.

maybe the mods should have a wager yo see who it is that causes the delete button to be pressed

Very good post mark.

[neil9629]

And Christianity's better? It's a sin for looking at another woman and you should remove your eye. It's a sin to be gay its a sin for getting tattoos. It's a sin for farting religion it's self has more holes than a sieve not just Islam. A small minority have give it a bad name as it has a massive following you get extremists in all religions

And off we go with the pc 'wotaboutary'!
Never mind anything, some people have genuine concerns
goverment polls have said we will be a minority in 2050.

What bothers me is the whabbi sects of islam, the sects of islam
from saudi. The same saudi that funds all the mosques being built,
the same saudi that forbids a female from showing skin from the
ankle up.
The same saudi that will not permit females to vote, or drive.
The same sect that is flown from there caves in the middle east to
preach hatred against the western world.
Now how many moderate muslims speak out against this form of
islam ???
‘Imams promote grooming rings’, Muslim leader claims - Telegraph
this is a fact.
I have kids so choose to do something about it.

[big phil 123]

Your friend in the nf is a racist bigot.
Chances are i already know your edl friend. http://db.tt/BMfdxPJi

The EDL is a group which claims to protest extremist Islam but actually protests all Islam. It is run by a football hooligan who was arrested for leading football hooligans at Luton Town FC against Newport County FC last year and most EDL marches are on Luton Town away days for the convenience of its leader.

The BNP are a political party which stands in elections. It is probably fifth or sixth in the UK, discounting all the regional parties like the SNP and Plaid.
Their platform is racist, they were formed out of disaffected members of the National Front. Since Griffin took over he has attempted to change the image of the party, but not the substance, though he has seen that Islam has far more opportunities than Judaism to gain support so the BNP have been very silent on their anti-semetism and even claim to have a Jewish member, though she is married to a non-Jew and hates Muslims more than anything.
The problem with the new image change is that the old keeps getting in the way. Chris Hurst was caught by the Sun newspaper recently giving the Hitler salute and shouting "Sieg heil" at a concert for the favourite band of the Norway killer. He was "kicked out" of the party because he showed the BNP for what they are, but he will be back just as Dr Phil Edwards was caught on camera listening to a racist telephone call he had made, now Phil is writing for the BNP again.

[neil9629]

The EDL is a group which claims to protest extremist Islam but actually protests all Islam. It is run by a football hooligan who was arrested for leading football hooligans at Luton Town FC against Newport County FC last year and most EDL marches are on Luton Town away days for the convenience of its leader.

The BNP are a political party which stands in elections. It is probably fifth or sixth in the UK, discounting all the regional parties like the SNP and Plaid.
Their platform is racist, they were formed out of disaffected members of the National Front. Since Griffin took over he has attempted to change the image of the party, but not the substance, though he has seen that Islam has far more opportunities than Judaism to gain support so the BNP have been very silent on their anti-semetism and even claim to have a Jewish member, though she is married to a non-Jew and hates Muslims more than anything.
The problem with the new image change is that the old keeps getting in the way. Chris Hurst was caught by the Sun newspaper recently giving the Hitler salute and shouting "Sieg heil" at a concert for the favourite band of the Norway killer. He was "kicked out" of the party because he showed the BNP for what they are, but he will be back just as Dr Phil Edwards was caught on camera listening to a racist telephone call he had made, now Phil is writing for the BNP again.

So tommy robinson has football violence on his record.
Does that mean he cant have a genuine concern about islam, or is freedom
of speech stifled, as it goes against the left wing ?
The left wing who maintain there against a nazi state ?
Get off your back legs and consider things on a non personal level.
Your labour goverment has let you down, the racist cry is the easy way out
for those that have no argument left.
Shame on you phil.

[big phil 123]

So tommy robinson has football violence on his record.
Does that mean he cant have a genuine concern about islam, or is freedom
of speech stifled, as it goes against the left wing ?
The left wing who maintain there against a nazi state ?
Get off your back legs and consider things on a non personal level.
Your labour goverment has let you down, the racist cry is the easy way out
for those that have no argument left.
Shame on you phil.

The leader is a thug it says it all. Who said I vote Labour?they have done nothing for this country. But your even more deluded if you think the bnp or edl are better dont make me laugh the bnp and edl are the biggest hypocrites going. We're not racist by any means haha yea ok. The problem with the British population is we're lazy and its that easy to not work and get benefits. Instead of blaming other people we need to look alot closer to home last year it cost 61 million pounds in unemployment and each household just over 2k that's the problem

[jonny_s]

Have you read the quran/hadith ?
If you have then your opinion is noted.

My opinions are based on over 20 years personal experience of Muslim culture. I do not know any ' Fanatics ' but I do know a number of families who just get on with their lives like the rest of us and would be perplexed and a little sad to think that someone like you could hold them in such low esteem, even though you are ignorant of their morals and their way of life.

I am just wondering where your dislike of Islam comes from ? Who exactly has caused you so much grief that you feel the need to call a whole race ?

[neil9629]

I think if you look at both, with a open mind,
the bnp and edl are far apart, im not trying to convert you mate.
These are my beliefs, could i get on with it, without being brandished a racist ?
There is a fine line between racist and realist ?
Ill have a natter on with you when we are fishing.
But your still wrong !!

[neil9629]

My opinions are based on over 20 years personal experience of Muslim culture. I do not know any ' Fanatics ' but I do know a number of families who just get on with their lives like the rest of us and would be perplexed and a little sad to think that someone like you could hold them in such low esteem, even though you are ignorant of their morals and their way of life.

I am just wondering where your dislike of Islam comes from ? Who exactly has caused you so much grief that you feel the need to call a whole race ?

Your friends worry me not.
The extremists do, but i dont suppose there are any in england eh !
Get a grip man, your country needs you.

[mark]

one thing everyone is walking into blindly here, and is perhaps more worrying...

the rise of islamic fundamentalism, the rise of the far right, EDL, BNP, NF etc

They are all giving the government more and more reason to control and monitor every single thing every 'normal' person does.

for every 'incident' there is a slight ratchetting up of control policies, little by little.

That is far more worrying than Islam, The EDL, BNP etc

Think back to what freedoms we had 20 years ago and compare that to now. Little by little our civil liberties get more and more eroded, and we, the majority, the good citizens of Britain find out lives controlled more and more. From central government agencies to the control freakery of local councils

and we are all sleepwalking into it

mate of mine wrote a book a few years ago, 'Surveillance Unlimited' the UK and its people are now the most 'watched' in the world by our own government (thanks mr Blair for that)

his introduction to that book was perfect

'If you drop a frog in a pan of hot water it will immediately revolt and jump out. sit the frog in a pan of cold water and slowly start to warm it up and it will sit there happily till it is too late and realises it can no longer jump and boils to death'

[jack555]

I'll just point this out, i'm not associated with any of the groups people have mentioned, I just speak for myself and no one else, their my own personal views, the EDL are just making the matter worse, we need people in higher powers to address that there is problems within the islamic community, the edl are just adding to the problems drunken hooligans protesting in street's aren't going to make a difference, as with the MDL UAF hope not hate ect, there is always going to be trouble whenever there is a protest...