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    Hi, this image shows a fleet of mainly Norwegian boats who have been fishing for sand eels east of dogger for over a week. Sandeels which feed fish and seabirds and seals. With boats landing hundreds of tonnes. Should our government allow this?? Is our government aware this even goes on??
    The sandeels are used for fish meal all landed in Norway with no benefit to the British economy. What about all the fish which is dumped by our fleet? Could this not be landed, and profit made?? So overall less fish needs to be caught to fill a boat?? Why is this I hear u ask, well it's the E.U.
    It's comical that the E.U. control our fisheries, they via Brussels, tell our government what the total allowable catch is for our waters, under the umbrella of the common fisheries policy.
    The public forget that fishermen only land what they are told to land, they hate dumping fish and they are constantly changing net design to prevent by catch, and often stop fishing certain areas because they see large amounts of juvenile fish, only to see a foreign boat towing through the same area. A foreign boat which is often a factory trawler, allowed to tow up to 8 nets, and hammer an area for many weeks. This is especially sour for our fleet as they are banned from using multi rig nets!!
    And it's brittish skippers who are targeted by our fisheries officers, and they get taken to the cleaners! Charged under the proceeds of crime act given hugely exaggerated fines and their assets frozen or removed, all for a few boxes of mishandled fish. Yes they were in the wrong but when your treated like a major drug dealer, and there is a 100 foreign boats doing far worse its a difficult pill to swallow.
    And then our fleet are forced to suffer the bad press and ridicule from the likes of Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall and green peace. It makes me sick!
    I wonder if any of you can remember a politician called Edward Heath? He was the one, in 1973, who betrayed us pleasure anglers and commercial fishermen alike by giving away our fishing rights when we joined the E.U. Common market.
    Reform or withdrawal of the common fisheries policy is needed, our waters need looked after by people who know our waters not by a pen pusher behind a desk in Brussels
    Im 23 years old and I hear the stories of Balcary 30 lbers it's legendary, I doubt I could tell my grand kids stories like that?
    Our skippers are targeted daily and rather unfairly, when they are only trying to make a pay, and are acting by the rules, weather the rules are right or wrong!

  • #2
    What's that app you're using mate?

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    • #3
      Just wondering, How do you know they are fishing for sand eels?

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      • #4
        Its not just over fishing that is affecting fish stocks.
        Global warming is also affecting the Sandeel population.
        The north sea is warming up which is affecting the food chain,IE the plankton which the Sandeels,Herring and Sprats feed on is dissapearing.
        This has a knock on effect with other species that depend on the above fish.
        Last edited by Bushwhacker; 24-05-2013, 07:25 AM.

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        • #5
          fishing boats

          Live Ships Map - AIS - Vessel Traffic and Positions
          old anglers never die -they just smell that way

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          • #6
            The government want to grow a pair and tell all none uk ships to do one out of our waters and to forrgett about this eu bullcrap that were in because its clearly a waste of or money and time being in it. As for all them boats Im just gona say WTF!

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            • #7
              Say it on all threads like this...Accept the fact that in our lifetime the north sea will be almost void of fish and regardless of what happens humans will fish until A/ no more fish left or B/ no money to be made on them and B/ will only happen if everyone in the world stops eating fish so yep you guessed it the fish are doomed.
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              SKATE 204lb
              COD 51lb
              LING 32lb
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              • #8
                Originally posted by northeast1 View Post
                Say it on all threads like this...Accept the fact that in our lifetime the north sea will be almost void of fish and regardless of what happens humans will fish until A/ no more fish left or B/ no money to be made on them and B/ will only happen if everyone in the world stops eating fish so yep you guessed it the fish are doomed.
                As depressing as it is, northeast1 is right. There is no incentive to change anything. The EU have a panel of scientists who tell them everything is fine in the North Sea and there is nothing to worry about. As long as the cheques keep rolling in no one really cares on the EU gravy train!

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                • #9
                  You all know where to put your X on polling day come the next election...Coz until we are out of the EU, the only thing you can do about it is moan under your breaths!
                  "And I looked, and behold'a pale horse; and his name that sat on him was death, and hell followed with hi, and power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword and with hunger, and with the beasts of the earth"

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                  • #10
                    I agree with the issue being talked about but got to say that website is brilliant! im going to spend even more time watching the ships round h'pool / tees & putting names & destinations to them and even less watching me rod for beermat dabs, cheers

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