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    having used pulleys since i was a teenager , ive found it interesting how some of the top match lads who i spoke to recently don't use them.

    these are the guys who only fish kelp without sending the bait a long way and win opens regulary.

    obviously this rig offers an immediate contact with the fish on strike, but does it avoid the snags better? the pulley is recognised as the top cod rough ground rig, but is this really the case or is the pulley favoured more for its streamlined effect?

    surely these guys who land big cod in the opens know a lot more than the sea angler editor?
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  • #2
    Aye pulley rigs not necessary close range but a good rotten bottom and not being bothered losing a sinker a chuck is the way forward IMO
    Ivan

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    • #3
      Personally I hate pulleys!! I use them only when I have to, ie when your dragging over rocks. I find that you miss far too many bites with pulleys and lose fish through a poor hookhold. A good old rotten bottom rig with trailing hook is all you need. 3 ft hooklength, 2ft sinker . Tried and tested over many years!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CHUKKA View Post
        Personally I hate pulleys!! I use them only when I have to, ie when your dragging over rocks. I find that you miss far too many bites with pulleys and lose fish through a poor hookhold. A good old rotten bottom rig with trailing hook is all you need. 3 ft hooklength, 2ft sinker . Tried and tested over many years!!
        That's the one!!
        Ivan

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        • #5
          I hate pulley's too!! I use variations on the rig described, different hook lengths / body lengths, sometimes fishing the bait above & sometimes below the sinker. I like quite long rigs for fishing in the kelp.

          Gary
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          • #6
            Originally posted by CHUKKA View Post
            Personally I hate pulleys!! I use them only when I have to, ie when your dragging over rocks. I find that you miss far too many bites with pulleys and lose fish through a poor hookhold. A good old rotten bottom rig with trailing hook is all you need. 3 ft hooklength, 2ft sinker . Tried and tested over many years!!
            yep, so av heard.

            so you attach your snood to the top of the rig, or the bottom near the sinker?
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            • #7
              any pic or links on how to make a rotten bottom rig as ive never used them myself

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              • #8
                Not naming names but one of the best rock men doesn't even use a rotten bottom! 3 way swivel 3 ft to hook, 2ft to sinker, plain but simple and effective!

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                • #9
                  dont u find that pully rigs you get your gear back?and on really heavy ground you need them?one hook pully rigs with sharp hooks and a rottom bottom has always worked for me so never tried anything else but some good ideas here

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                  • #10
                    3 way swivel 30lb to the lead no rotten bottom and 40lb hook length at required length it's all I use while fishing rough ground where distance isn't needed
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Deans View Post
                      yep, so av heard.

                      so you attach your snood to the top of the rig, or the bottom near the sinker?
                      There's a lot of variation mate, everyone'll have their own opinion. This summer I tried something different, used the same rig in all 5 of my summer league matches. I had a hook length of about 3ft 6in tied 4ft above the sinker. My thinking was that in the kelp, some of the shorter rigs I'd been using might have been pulling the hook into the kelp as the sinker made it to the bottom, resulting in an instant fast-had in the kelp. Reasoning that kelp tends to stand about 6ft in the water, I figured that with the longer rig the sinker could make it to the bottom with the bait dropping slowly behind to settle wherever...and it seemed to work. Had fish every match, winning one, and finishing fourth overall, so I was pretty happy. Rarely lost much gear and missed very few bites (and had quite a lot of undersize fish!) - if snagged the rotten-bottom usually did it's job. I don't think I lost more than two or three leaders while fishing Beadnell, Newton & Howick.

                      Of course I could be completely wrong and am always happy to try new things, but they're generally variations on the classic, simple one-hook paternoster. Oh, and I never use a pennel hook in the kelp!

                      Gary
                      ....fishin' accomplished......

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CHUKKA View Post
                        Not naming names but one of the best rock men doesn't even use a rotten bottom! 3 way swivel 3 ft to hook, 2ft to sinker, plain but simple and effective!
                        I use the same but I have 50lb to my hook and 25 to sinker I use a Gemini clip and clip the hook on it so its safe to cast the sinker as my 50lb hook snoods the leader and on release It acts as a rotten bottom but many times I get the lead back
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NICKY View Post
                          3 way swivel 30lb to the lead no rotten bottom and 40lb hook length at required length it's all I use while fishing rough ground where distance isn't needed
                          what about when you need distance ? i struggle to thump 30lb line straight through i have to use a 80 shocker

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                          • #14
                            HAVE A LOOK ON OUR WEB SITE THER ARE A FEW RIGS ON THERE THAT MIGHT HELP YOU

                            BEDLINGTON STATION SAC

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                            • #15
                              i don't even know what a pulley rig is!!
                              mind i've only been fishing for 42 years.... i might catch up one day.

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