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  • #16
    Gemini splash downs or outcast baitclip the latter being the best
    Species 2012 - Cod, Flounder, Dab, Plaice, Pollock, Eelpout, Common eel, Granny Fish, Whiting, Coalie, LSD, Rockling, Bass.

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    • #17
      LOL Mark!! I know the feeling mate! Still waiting on my coddys! Seem to be catching everything but cod at the moment!

      I will try the extra length on the snood and see if that works, I probs do have it a bit tight and if it was looser then it might eject off the clip easier.... if not then I guess im chucking the imps and buying some impact shields!!
      "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


      PB. Ling - 12lb 6oz. Cod - 11lb 6oz, Coley - 3lb 6oz, Pollock - 4lb 1oz, Flounder - 1lb 11oz, Plaice - 1lb 10oz, Whiting 1lb 9oz.

      North east bass fishing addict.
      PB 2lb 9oz.

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      • #18
        cheap lead links work for me mate never had problems with imps either strange as they always release on my pullys the gemini lead links are the best in my eyes cheap and if u have a problem releasing just straighten the little curved over bit out a litttle. and i use nothing but pulleys for cod

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        • #19
          I use pulley rigs for mixed/clean ground most of the time,I build my rigs with no swivels and little hardware as possible using 100lb line knotted up to 60 or 80lb hook line.

          For the hook clipdown I tried impact shields...great for release but when reeling in they could cause snagging and also if fishing down Holderness flat sandy beaches they would feel line pulling a plough back over the sand bars.

          When the imps came onto the market I tried them.....brilliant piece of clever clipdown device and worked every time,then after about a year later when building new pulleys with them I found they would release in mid flight when checking the fault I found they just snapped in half and disappeared from the metal clip,I contacted brakeaway and I know they changed the plastic mould material for some reason maybe to save money.
          I binned all the new imp clips but I believe now as someone has said they now back on the market..extreme imps.hahaha.
          The problem I found if you just use bent u wire as a clipdown is then in strong cross winds or say fishing the river when the flow is strong they will just not release because the cross wind keeps pressure on the rig in a big bow of running line then when it hits the water its then under pressure with the line still bowed and under tension.
          Pulley rigs are great and I'm building again with imps but I also use other rigs to suit the conditions I'm fishing in.

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          • #20
            Yeah that sounds like the problems I have been having Harry cheers. Been either windy or river marks where I have had the issues..... will try them again before tossing them in the bin lol
            "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


            PB. Ling - 12lb 6oz. Cod - 11lb 6oz, Coley - 3lb 6oz, Pollock - 4lb 1oz, Flounder - 1lb 11oz, Plaice - 1lb 10oz, Whiting 1lb 9oz.

            North east bass fishing addict.
            PB 2lb 9oz.

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            • #21
              When casting try and let it overrun a split second and not tighten soon as it hits the water , the little overrun releases the hook every time
              Good luck mate
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              • #22
                Daft question but are you sure you are assembling them properly I've never had 1 not release. They are designed to release on impact with the water. The only problem I have with them Is they release mid flight when using big/bulky baits. I prefer impact shields now if using 4/0 hooks or above.

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                • #23
                  I have had a couple not release when just using a wire lead clip, but never happens with impact shields.

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                  • #24
                    i use imps with loop rigs or 2 hk bombers with srt springs nee probs so far. i did use a pulley with an imp when i first got it last yr it didnt release on occasion but i thought it was down to the full circle hook i was using.
                    Punch and pull then let rip

                    NESA Lure Fishing Challenge 2011 Winner


                    UK species : Cod, Whiting, Poor Cod, Whiting, Mackerel, Coalie, Pollack, Rockling, Bass, Plaice, Flounder, Dab, Grannylasher, Pouting, Launce, Weaver, Sandeel, Ballan wrasse. eelpout

                    Global species: jewfish/big eye croaker,catfish(Sagor/African/Silver), whip ray, snapper, grouper, pufferfish,threadfin, trevally,stingray, mangrove shark, flowerhorn,

                    2014 combo:
                    Kompressor SS /slosh30
                    tt sport /525 mag

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                    • #25
                      Yeah they are defo set up fine... when i try them out on dry land they release fine every single time! Will try a few of the suggestions above before throwing them away altogether.
                      "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


                      PB. Ling - 12lb 6oz. Cod - 11lb 6oz, Coley - 3lb 6oz, Pollock - 4lb 1oz, Flounder - 1lb 11oz, Plaice - 1lb 10oz, Whiting 1lb 9oz.

                      North east bass fishing addict.
                      PB 2lb 9oz.

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                      • #26
                        Sounds like your packing the bait too close to the hook bend if they release on dry land fine, try pushing the bait a bit further up the hook shank.

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                        • #27
                          emm julio.....i think the whole idea of the paddle is to enable water action to release the imp . . if a shock thud is required to release it on dru land it might just be remotely possible that ur snoods are rather tight ? the best way to get an explanation i guess would be email breakaway. i had a swift email response when i was having an issue with my thumb button system .
                          Punch and pull then let rip

                          NESA Lure Fishing Challenge 2011 Winner


                          UK species : Cod, Whiting, Poor Cod, Whiting, Mackerel, Coalie, Pollack, Rockling, Bass, Plaice, Flounder, Dab, Grannylasher, Pouting, Launce, Weaver, Sandeel, Ballan wrasse. eelpout

                          Global species: jewfish/big eye croaker,catfish(Sagor/African/Silver), whip ray, snapper, grouper, pufferfish,threadfin, trevally,stingray, mangrove shark, flowerhorn,

                          2014 combo:
                          Kompressor SS /slosh30
                          tt sport /525 mag

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Juliogeordio View Post
                            Hi guys,

                            I have problems some times when using pulley rigs and bait clips.... there are occasions when they just don't seem to release and the whole rig comes back as it went out.....

                            Any ideas? Snood too long or short etc....

                            Any help would be great,

                            Thanks Marc
                            try shortening your snoode mate, after casting give it plenty slack line so your lead has a chance of hitting the bottom without tention throught the line. If none of the above is working it may also be a facter of bait. As in too much masking the bait clip will ofter prevent it from doing what its suppost to do. Hope this helps

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                            • #29
                              I use imps julio, and tbh i've never had one fail. Worth every penny imo
                              Cod Mission: Cod over 5lb!

                              Success: 27/09/12

                              PB COD!!!: 9lb 13OZ!


                              Chance of Success?: Dismal, But possible!

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                              • #30
                                YAY!!!! Finally think I have worked it out.....

                                I had a fairly thick oval link joining my swivel to the 'imp'. Took the oval link out and it now appears to be MUCH more free to spin and eject the hook. Also slacked the hooklength a bit aswell and a few casts yesterday, hey presto.... bait popped off every time!

                                Oh, and I also invested in some bait shields aswell..... be prepared for them not working and another post form me asking for you guys to sort them out hahaha

                                "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


                                PB. Ling - 12lb 6oz. Cod - 11lb 6oz, Coley - 3lb 6oz, Pollock - 4lb 1oz, Flounder - 1lb 11oz, Plaice - 1lb 10oz, Whiting 1lb 9oz.

                                North east bass fishing addict.
                                PB 2lb 9oz.

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