Spoiling The Tyne

[eno]

Hi lads and lasses
Just something I need to get off my chest, I have noticed the distinct lack of sizable fish in the Tyne again this year and I think I know the reason why.
Last Sunday I fished the basin using all the best baits for four hours and was rewarded with three fish of around 6oz, I was amazed by the amount of weed in the water, tons of the stuff and lost four rigs and sinkers at a place where tackle losses are usually minimal, it is impossible for this much weed to come in from the open sea and the only thing I can put it down to is DREDGING which takes away the natural habitat that holds the food sources like worms, crabs molluscs and small fish as well as exposing the limestone bedrock that fish hate.
I realise that dredging is necessary but surely not to this extent it is just another example of the low regard for local anglers from the powers that be.
OK, rant over, sorry to be so long winded but I love the Tyne and have fished it for over forty years and things like this make my blood boil
Regards Eddie

[MrGloop]

Alot of weed was dumped onto some beaches after the SE's from the week before, so yes it could account for the amount of weed m8.The tyne is not the only place suffering this year with small fish, the Wear is just the same, which was dredged in October.Been a poor winter for alot of people, can only hope next is better.

[beachbuddy]

Hi lads and lasses
Just something I need to get off my chest, I have noticed the distinct lack of sizable fish in the Tyne again this year and I think I know the reason why.
Last Sunday I fished the basin using all the best baits for four hours and was rewarded with three fish of around 6oz, I was amazed by the amount of weed in the water, tons of the stuff and lost four rigs and sinkers at a place where tackle losses are usually minimal, it is impossible for this much weed to come in from the open sea and the only thing I can put it down to is DREDGING which takes away the natural habitat that holds the food sources like worms, crabs molluscs and small fish as well as exposing the limestone bedrock that fish hate.
I realise that dredging is necessary but surely not to this extent it is just another example of the low regard for local anglers from the powers that be.
OK, rant over, sorry to be so long winded but I love the Tyne and have fished it for over forty years and things like this make my blood boil
Regards Eddie

What aload of crap they have always dredged rivers due to shipping/ship building in its time,and it's never been a problem before the fishing is just crap full stop at this moment in time.

[Swilsonstu@aol.com]

i agree with that last the previous comment. been fishing for close to 60 years, dont want to go down the road of when i was a lad! dredging was carried out extensively, waste from power stations was dumped within a few hundred meters of the tyne bar {during bad weather).still, there was plenty of fish - mainly cod,codling and sizable coaly and whiting. however, what has changed is the rape and pillage carried out by modern trawlers - many eu trawlers, and scandinavian boats! remember 1987, billions of small but just size codling! never to mature, too small for the market but netted and hovered-up and turned into fish meal! makes you want to cry. but what do we do? moan and then carry on.when salmon were being overfished it didnt take long for ripirian owners to organise and buy out netting stations etc. what do we do? moan and carry on. remember the icelandic cod wars in the 70's? look at their self sustaining fishery now! 90% of haddock and 65% of cod landed in britain comes from iceland, essentially line caught - no disgards, and managed to increase stocks! what do we do? moan and carry on! our angling organisations cant agree on the colour of ****! no wonder nothing is ever achieved.

[rossi46]

Spoiling the tyne

No dredging is allowed now in the UK since Tony Blair signed an European directive when pm hence massive mud flats and loads of flooding..It's the EU water directive Framework and saves 9 Millon a year apparently

[beachbuddy]

No dredging is allowed now in the UK since Tony Blair signed an European directive when pm hence massive mud flats and loads of flooding..It's the EU water directive Framework and saves 9 Millon a year apparently

What aload of -hite any shipping lanes must be dredged.

[eno]

Dredging

Message to Rossi, If you think dredging is not allowed then have a trip down to the Tyne in the wee small hours any day of the week and see for yourself

[Juliogeordio]

The Tyne is frequently dredged mate. I don't think it's the reason for the lack of fish though as it used to much more heavily dredged in years gone by and the fishing was better.... Just a sign of declining fish stocks for me.

[johnny h]

When the mines were in operation the Tyne was very very heavily dredged, especially from Dunston Staithes, I'm sure lots on this site can remember the boat 'The Bessie Surtess'. and when the Baltic and Spillars were still used as grain silos for the Canadian ships they were excavated! so the ships could dock. The Baltic (the now art gallery) was dredged really deep that Cod could be caught all the year round. i keep records (very anal i know) but i got some big cod (one 12ib, and 3 around 8ib)
Cod, Whiting, etc thrive on dredging as the dredgers kick up all the food thsy feed on, they do not breed in the rivers they breed far far out to sea.

[waco]

No dredging is allowed now in the UK since Tony Blair signed an European directive when pm hence massive mud flats and loads of flooding..It's the EU water directive Framework and saves 9 Millon a year apparently

not know where u get your info from but for the last 16 years the river tyne has been getting dredged regular as acordinng to the port of tyne tide books the tyne is deeper now than 16 year ago and thats a fact , also,river blyth , and river wear has been dredged at times as well
also dredgers work off te was and bristol channel as well , and i am fairly sure ther is a lot of other places are getting dredged aswell

[beachbuddy]

When the mines were in operation the Tyne was very very heavily dredged, especially from Dunston Staithes, I'm sure lots on this site can remember the boat 'The Bessie Surtess'. and when the Baltic and Spillars were still used as grain silos for the Canadian ships they were excavated! so the ships could dock. The Baltic (the now art gallery) was dredged really deep that Cod could be caught all the year round. i keep records (very anal i know) but i got some big cod (one 12ib, and 3 around 8ib)
Cod, Whiting, etc thrive on dredging as the dredgers kick up all the food thsy feed on, they do not breed in the rivers they breed far far out to sea.

The mv Bessie surtees was not a dredger it was what was called a flattie that went up to the power station at dunston,the mv adderston would work the Tyne and Wear with pit spoil and the mv sir on would work blyth power station all this spoil used to be dumped in a designated area.the mc Northumbria water would take the sewage from howdon and also tip in a designated area b

[johnny h]

Beachbuddy,
I know the BS was not a dredger but a carrier, never said that she was a dredger but In its later life the 'Bessie' did carry dregs from the Tyne, the mines finished in the 70's and the boat would carry anything and i can well remember fishing the Tyne in the late 80's when it would pass us as we would try to cast in its wake.
Anyway to get back to the original post, dredging does have a negative effect on fishing but only on the higher levels where flood protection dredging totally screws the fishing but on the lower tidal levels its quite beneficial.
We have to dredge because untill we have the next Ice Age nothing 'Naturnal' is doing it!

[rossi46]

Spoiling the tyne

Think you will find that shipping lane are dredged it's further up the river he was saying was not dredged. Get your facts rights. Think you will find that mark Skinner was doing the work for the port of Tyne for years just ask Alan Skinner