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got a 11ft shimano bass rod 2/4oz and going to try some float fishing on st marys island and other kelpy places for wrasse -pollock ect,when using 10lb main line should i use a heavy leader of say 20ft or so of 20lb line for the float to run on,i know the basic float set up with a stop knott and bead ect but thought a thicker leader might be better with the float running up and down it.any advice on float fishing would be helpfull
peter
Got a bass rod on order
Aswell as floats and plugs seen the Texas rig for jellyworms couple of sea anglers back looks the biz for rough ground and your target fish look it up another avenue !
Still waiting for me rod but geared up and ready
Loads of effort for little reward
But still love it
Never understood why people switch to braid then go for a massive BS. 16lb braid will suit you fine with a 10-12lb fluro/mono hook length. 1 to 1/0 hook.
Not trying to step on anyone's toes with the braid comment but I see using braid for 2 reasons.
1. There is no stretch so you have direct contact with the fish.
2. The small Diameter means you can have more on a spool and cast further.
Using a much Higher breaking strain means a equal or greater diameter which is defeating the purpose isn't it?
Species: Cod, Bass, Coalie, Flounder, Dab, Rockling, Mackerel, Plaice, Pollock, Ballen Wrasse, L/S Scorpion, Common Blenny, Weaver (unfortunately), Whiting, Common Eel, Trout, Pike... think that's it
I use 10lb braid on a 2500 size shimano reel for float fishing up to an ounce or so, for mackerel & the like. For slightly heavier conditions I use 20lb braid on a 3500 reel, with floats up to 2oz or whatever the rough metric equivalent is. I've had no problems with the floats sliding up & down the braid - on the light set-up I usually use 6 or 8lb fluorocarbon hook lengths; 15 or 18lb on the heavier set-up works fine for me.
Never understood why people switch to braid then go for a massive BS. 16lb braid will suit you fine with a 10-12lb fluro/mono hook length. 1 to 1/0 hook.
Not trying to step on anyone's toes with the braid comment but I see using braid for 2 reasons.
1. There is no stretch so you have direct contact with the fish.
2. The small Diameter means you can have more on a spool and cast further.
Using a much Higher breaking strain means a equal or greater diameter which is defeating the purpose isn't it?
use carp spod rods and spod reels with 50lb whiplash for flattie fishin.50lb braid same dia as 10lb mono.casts a long way ,no strech,great for bites and no wind knotts.on a 7000 shimano spod reel ive got loads of backing and 300 yards of braid.why drop down to 16lb braid?,risk wind knotts and doubt i could cast it any further
each to there own
Using a much Higher breaking strain means a equal or greater diameter which is defeating the purpose isn't it?[/QUOTE]
In a word, no. The point of braid is that you CAN use higher breaking strains in lower diameters. 10lb braid probably has the daimeter pubic hair with pubic hair having more abrassion resistance !
Considering 50lb braid is the diameter of 10lb mono I would say no its not defeating the object
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Using a much Higher breaking strain means a equal or greater diameter which is defeating the purpose isn't it?
In a word, no. The point of braid is that you CAN use higher breaking strains in lower diameters. 10lb braid probably has the daimeter pubic hair with pubic hair having more abrassion resistance !
Considering 50lb braid is the diameter of 10lb mono I would say no its not defeating the object [/QUOTE]
Ive got a shimano 3500 braid special, one spool with 10lb braid, the other with 20, works fine for everything from spinning/jellies to float fishing/bottom fishing. got to balance the outfit, if the breaking strain is to high your more likely to damage your rod and reel. Only time i use heavier is the 30lb ive got loaded on my okuma beach reel on my surfcaster, and thats so i can bully/lift fish when i'm on the pier
Species 2015 - Cod, Bass, Flounder, Dab, LS Sea Scorpion
Species 2014 - Coalfish, Codling, Dab, Lobster, Weaver, LS Sea Scorpion, Flounder, Barracuda (Gran Canaria)
Species 2013 - Flounder, Whiting, Codling, Coalfish, pollack, dab, eel, Mackeral, Launce, eel pout, blenny, LS Sea Scorpion, Butterfish, Thin Lipped Mullet, thick Lipped Mullet, Gilt Head Bream, Black Bream, Yet to be identified Mediterainian Wrasse, Bass
In a word, no. The point of braid is that you CAN use higher breaking strains in lower diameters. 10lb braid probably has the daimeter pubic hair with pubic hair having more abrassion resistance !
Considering 50lb braid is the diameter of 10lb mono I would say no its not defeating the object
Ive got a shimano 3500 braid special, one spool with 10lb braid, the other with 20, works fine for everything from spinning/jellies to float fishing/bottom fishing. got to balance the outfit, if the breaking strain is to high your more likely to damage your rod and reel. Only time i use heavier is the 30lb ive got loaded on my okuma beach reel on my surfcaster, and thats so i can bully/lift fish when i'm on the pier[/QUOTE]
3500 size reel,i agree,the reels im using with the 50lb whiplash are shimano 7000 spod reels,the rods are 13ft fox horizon xt spod rods and casting 4oz leads over rocks kelp ect ,50lb braid does the job,float fishing over thick heavy kelp and rocks chucking 2 to 3oz floats i think the bigger b/s braid will be better than thread size braid when a fish dives into the kelp.but each to there own,what ever your happy with use.my mate uses 65lb braid on his multi casts like 12lb line.unless your doing lrf style fishing cant see any benifit in using to fine a braid
Most fishing with a float is done at close range for wrasse as they are right under your feet so I use a 11ft flattie rod with the butt section cut down by 4inchs for more control when playing a fish use good quality 15lb mono and 10lb clear hook length had loads a coalies Pollock bass wrasse mackrel on this set up and if you get snagged up with the hook length snaps and get your float etc back. For casting spinners and jelly worms or freelining with 10g lead heads with mackrel or rag 30lb power pro braid and 20lb flourcarbon leader for big Pollock as you need to give them some stick to get them.
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