worth reading

[Charlton]

just borrowed this of Whitby web site

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | Columnists :: Another betrayal of our fishermen

[adam.d]

Make's ya sick

[jonny_s]

If we are not allowed to take our own fish WHY are other countries allowed ?

Why do we as a nation create such stupid rules and follow them to the letter to the detriment of our own people and economy. If we still had a navy maybe our subs should be sent to bust the nets accidentally of any foreign boats

Jonny

[RossW]

There's no doubt that Fish-quotas and throwing fish dead overboard is madness, but beware what youz read in the Daily Express - load of b***ocks

[Rocker]

That makes depressing reading.
I might be way off the mark here, but why can't we farm sea fish? Like we farm trout and salmon?
Cod for example grow quick enough to make this viable! I'm sure other species such as bass, are too.
Running costs for a trawler is mental. It would probably be cheaper running a fish farm?
Then we could leave the wild fish alone!
Or am I talking cr@p now?

[bigriver]

That is truely barmy

[jameswlong1941]

Worth reading.

It is well and truly rediculous as ive stood on Roker pier and watched them dumping fish back into the sea and there all dead too so whats the use in that as they should/nt bring back what they are not going to use or are we missing the point eh.

[Charlton]

That makes depressing reading.
I might be way off the mark here, but why can't we farm sea fish? Like we farm trout and salmon?
Cod for example grow quick enough to make this viable! I'm sure other species such as bass, are too.
Running costs for a trawler is mental. It would probably be cheaper running a fish farm?
Then we could leave the wild fish alone!
Or am I talking cr@p now?

not talking crap, there are a few cod, halibut, and turbot fish farms but they don't seem to do as well as salmon farms

[g-force]

just borrowed this of Whitby web site

Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | Columnists :: Another betrayal of our fishermen

He should use it as the preface to his next novel, "The Day of the Jobsworth" !!!

Seriously though, it's ruddy typical!

Don't know why fish farms aren't more prolific in this country; the Greeks farm all the bass that you'll see in the supermarkets (you know, the really small ones...) & the Japanese farm tons of Bream & Yellowtail & flatfish - I think farmed fish accounts for half their annual consumption of fish.

Gary

[chris elliott]

the irish

Hi lads,the irish have got it right,through stabilising stocks over the last twenty years,and more or less banning inshore trawling,there main industry now is lads like us spending wedge in the pubs,tackle shops and the charter boats over there,norway has it exactly the same way,there just ahead of us,there is more money in the tourist thing than qoutas for trawlersgive it time in england a lot of trawermen are being paid fantastic money to decommision there boats,somewhere like i fish at st abbs was decomissioned years ago,they now do diving and a bit of chartering,tourism is through the roof

[Bushwhacker]

That makes depressing reading.
I might be way off the mark here, but why can't we farm sea fish? Like we farm trout and salmon?
Cod for example grow quick enough to make this viable! I'm sure other species such as bass, are too.
Running costs for a trawler is mental. It would probably be cheaper running a fish farm?
Then we could leave the wild fish alone!
Or am I talking cr@p now?

And where do you think the feed for "Fish farms" comes from?.
Sprat and Sand Eels are used to make the pellets,which are practically wiped out in the north sea.
This also has a knock on effect as they are also a major part of the diets of other fish species like Cod and the main diet of a lot of bird species.
Fish farming can never be ecologically friendly as it takes tons of other fish to feed a few hundred in a cage.

[Rocker]

And where do you think the feed for "Fish farms" comes from?.
Sprat and Sand Eels are used to make the pellets,which are practically wiped out in the north sea.
This also has a knock on effect as they are also a major part of the diets of other fish species like Cod and the main diet of a lot of bird species.
Fish farming can never be ecologically friendly as it takes tons of other fish to feed a few hundred in a cage.

I'm sure the feed problem isn't a big enough obstacle to warrant fish farms unviable!
It just needs more thought.
What is unviable imo, is a trawler costing on average 2-3 million pounds using 3 tonnes of fuel a day, scouring the sea searching for the last of our fish stocks.
I feel sorry for the trawlermen, they have to land tonnes of fish just to meet running costs,
Eventually ,because of dwindling stocks, fuel costs and boat prices- maintainence fishing of any kind comercial or pleasure will be unviable, then the last of the trawlers will be scrapped.
The whole thing has been left to get put of control, and its the fish that will suffer.
Imagine how many jobs would be created if there were no trawlers and our fishery was left to recover. The inshore netsmen would have their industry back.

[Red5]

I'm sure the feed problem isn't a big enough obstacle to warrant fish farms unviable!
It just needs more thought.
What is unviable imo, is a trawler costing on average 2-3 million pounds using 3 tonnes of fuel a day, scouring the sea searching for the last of our fish stocks.
I feel sorry for the trawlermen, they have to land tonnes of fish just to meet running costs,
Eventually ,because of dwindling stocks, fuel costs and boat prices- maintainence fishing of any kind comercial or pleasure will be unviable, then the last of the trawlers will be scrapped.
The whole thing has been left to get put of control, and its the fish that will suffer.
Imagine how many jobs would be created if there were no trawlers and our fishery was left to recover. The inshore netsmen would have their industry back.

I think I read somewhere that it takes around 3lb of feed to put on 1lb of fish from a fish farm....then take into account where all the fish poo goes (an ecological disaster in the prawn farms in the far east)....then you can guarantee the scientists will add some weird stuff to the food to make these fish grow quicker (keeping costs down) and as is the problem with salmon farms, these fish can cause an ecological disaster if they escape...

Sorry for the doom and gloom...am starting to sound like a right hippy....Would make more sense just to have smaller boats using methods that do not involve trawling, more of them and for these fishermen to be allowed to keep EVERYTHING they catch

[jonesey]

not talking crap, there are a few cod, halibut, and turbot fish farms but they don't seem to do as well as salmon farms

Problem with fish farming is the vast amount of other fish required to produce the pellet food to farm them. As in the original report the fish are there, we just have to sort these ********s out sticking to ridiculous rules. There was a documentary a few weeks ago showing almost all our spider crabs being shipped off to french supermarkets to be sold there.

[Redeyecodwarrior]

Hi lads,the irish have got it right,through stabilising stocks over the last twenty years,and more or less banning inshore trawling,there main industry now is lads like us spending wedge in the pubs,tackle shops and the charter boats over there,norway has it exactly the same way,there just ahead of us,there is more money in the tourist thing than qoutas for trawlersgive it time in england a lot of trawermen are being paid fantastic money to decommision there boats,somewhere like i fish at st abbs was decomissioned years ago,they now do diving and a bit of chartering,tourism is through the roof

You may well be on the right track there matey👍