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  • Heavy or light ?

    It’s all starting to come back to me now...

    I’ve just bought a load of 40lb mainline and 35lb trace.

    Most of my fishing is off the rocks, and the beaches I do fish tend not to need a long cast since most of them have gullies and holes 40 - 60 yards out, depending on the state of the tide.

    I’ve never understood the fascination with distance casting - most situations I’ve encountered never needed it.

    Basically I’m going from 30lb mainline with a shockleader to 40lb mainline straight through, with no shockleader, with a 35lb trace and a 25lb rotten bottom link.

    I usually fish substantial baits on big hooks right through the year because it’s the bigger fish I’m interested in, and I’ve either caught them myself or seen them caught in all weathers, including low tide in bright midday summer sun.

    I won’t hit the horizon with this setup but at least I’ll get my gear back most of the time, and I will still be able to hit the sort of range the beach marks I visit require.

    40lb straight through with a pulley rig at the business end will still go a long way without too much effort behind it and if the cast is a smooth swing a heavier shock leader won’t be needed.

    How do you guys do it ?

    I have lighter gear for targeting smaller fish and/or bigger distance but the heavier stuff is what I will be using almost exclusively.

  • #2
    15lb mainline 65-80lb shocker. I sometimes only drop short but I have the option to chuck 1 a bit further if I need to. If I'm fishing anything other than clean sand then I use a pully pennel, I use about 8 different rigs for the cleaner stuff

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Persues View Post
      It’s all starting to come back to me now...

      I’ve just bought a load of 40lb mainline and 35lb trace.

      Most of my fishing is off the rocks, and the beaches I do fish tend not to need a long cast since most of them have gullies and holes 40 - 60 yards out, depending on the state of the tide.

      I’ve never understood the fascination with distance casting - most situations I’ve encountered never needed it.

      Basically I’m going from 30lb mainline with a shockleader to 40lb mainline straight through, with no shockleader, with a 35lb trace and a 25lb rotten bottom link.

      I usually fish substantial baits on big hooks right through the year because it’s the bigger fish I’m interested in, and I’ve either caught them myself or seen them caught in all weathers, including low tide in bright midday summer sun.

      I won’t hit the horizon with this setup but at least I’ll get my gear back most of the time, and I will still be able to hit the sort of range the beach marks I visit require.

      40lb straight through with a pulley rig at the business end will still go a long way without too much effort behind it and if the cast is a smooth swing a heavier shock leader won’t be needed.

      How do you guys do it ?

      I have lighter gear for targeting smaller fish and/or bigger distance but the heavier stuff is what I will be using almost exclusively.

      for the beach i use my abu 6500 rocket with 15lb ultima f1 and 50lb leader for heavier stuff i use 40lb mailine and my sl30sh i also use only 6/0 pennel pulley rigs for river and beach. dont target small fish but you will be amazed even how big a small codling mouth can be.
      Species 2012 - Cod, Flounder, Dab, Plaice, Pollock, Eelpout, Common eel, Granny Fish, Whiting, Coalie, LSD, Rockling, Bass.

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      • #4
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        I used to use 40lb straight through for all my rock fishing but switched to 80lb braid last summer and with that I can fish any venue now.
        Not as costly as I first thought 'I think in the long term its been cheaper and its really nice to cast with once you get used to it.
        Personally preference I suppose.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by beano View Post
          I used to use 40lb straight through for all my rock fishing but switched to 80lb braid last summer and with that I can fish any venue now.
          Not as costly as I first thought 'I think in the long term its been cheaper and its really nice to cast with once you get used to it.
          Personally preference I suppose.
          do you use your braid on a multi or F/S
          Species 2012 - Cod, Flounder, Dab, Plaice, Pollock, Eelpout, Common eel, Granny Fish, Whiting, Coalie, LSD, Rockling, Bass.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sea_Troot View Post
            do you use your braid on a multi or F/S

            On my Saltist 30 mate, really smooth cast... but I always use a rubber strip to cover my thump just in case it's whipped off !!! never had any dramas with it tho

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            • #7
              When I do get to fish its nearly always from the rocks, and my set up is typically 35lb straight through, 60lb leader, 40lb hook length. 4/0 - 5/0 pennel pulley with a yarking bait of some description!!! Kompressor Sport and RTAxcellerator with 7000c3 or Sl30SHX. If I do fish from the beach then its usually with my 525 mag one one of my rods, 20 lb line, 60lb shock leader with a similar terminal set up.

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              • #8
                I don't really fish rock marks mainly because I don't know them, so I stick to places I do know. I use 15lb mainline with 50lb leader chucking 5oz weights suits me fine.

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                • #9
                  One of the codling I got on Dunstanburgh cliffs the other day was barely 10 inches long but it had contrived to swallow a monster bait on a 6/0 pennel

                  Even small flatties have easily scoffed 4/0 hooks...

                  I might look into braid later this year as an all around solution.

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                  • #10
                    Out of curiosity, which brands of braid are the ones to go for ?

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                    • #11
                      I use 66lb power pro, 60 lb shockleader down to a 3 way swivel then 50lbs snood/ rig body.
                      I put an impact shield on the rig body and use 5/0 vikings as they bend out nicely.
                      Amazing how little gear you lose with this set up.
                      Oh and my braid is the same diameter as 16lb mono so I can chuck it miles or drop it short. It's on a slosh 20, and I Give it the beans no problems.
                      Stay safe!
                      Enjoy your fishing!
                      Take your rubbish home!
                      Rocker.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Persues View Post
                        Out of curiosity, which brands of braid are the ones to go for ?
                        I've always used Whiplash pro mate as it was recommended to me and I use it for the Kayak and spinning aswell, I'm sure other lads will give you feedback on the many others out there on the market.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by beano View Post
                          I've always used Whiplash pro mate as it was recommended to me and I use it for the Kayak and spinning aswell, I'm sure other lads will give you feedback on the many others out there on the market.
                          do you have to use a mono back on the reel?
                          Species 2012 - Cod, Flounder, Dab, Plaice, Pollock, Eelpout, Common eel, Granny Fish, Whiting, Coalie, LSD, Rockling, Bass.

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                          • #14
                            Oh and you can't mistake a good cod bite when using braid.
                            And the sensitivity when feeling for a bite is amazing.
                            I revert back to mono when fishing in a heavy sea, as the breakers can bounce your rod clean out of the rest.
                            Stay safe!
                            Enjoy your fishing!
                            Take your rubbish home!
                            Rocker.

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                            • #15
                              I dont as its a spool of 300 yards and it just fits onto the Saltist nicely but on the Saltist 20 I cant fit it all onto the spool but as for my spinning reel its best to underfill your spool as it stops any wind knots when you cast out, but as for the muti I suppose it'll depend on what your spool capacity and make your reel is.

                              Hope this helps

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