Fishing at distance over rough ground

[Rocker]

Still can't catch owt tho mebby I should stalk you lot and nik ya best marks! Walkway, roker, ratty ect! Lol

[EddieS]

Daiwa slosh 20, 18lb Daiwa sensor main line, connected with a bimini twist to 60lb trilene shocker, pully rig with 15lb rotten bottom attached to a gene clip.
Takes me all my time to snap out if properly fast up.

Well said - ditto, ditto, etc, etc.

[TerryC]

A bit of sense at last

Had a bit of a practice a couple of months ago and, using the footy pitch at school as a guide, found I could lob it about 110 yards without a hook and, therefore, bait and that's with a 7oz sinker and 60lb line, straight through.

In all my years of fishing I've only ever come away beaten by the distance once and that was at the Astley Arms, high tide, trying to hit the hole which was......112 yards away lol.
Had I waited an hour or two I'd have been OK but high tide is a, relatively, novel experience for us in the NE and I left with my tail between my legs as the big casters brought in a fish a chuck.

On most of the NE coast the tangles are well within 100 yards and yes you can win comps, usually in poor conditions, by winging it 200 yards (and I wish I could) but most often the fish are at your feet. If you're thinking of guys on this board may I remind you that in the recent NvS comps and the NESA comps my brother Rod has had 2 heaviest fish (casting no more than 60 yards with 30lb main line) and I've caught more than the whole South team, catching within 60 yards.

There you go - a thread devoid of loads of fishing terms that include technical terms that not only involve considerable skill, putting them together but also knowledge and expense.
Hope it encourages others to fish simply.

I hope people really read your comments and understand the truth of them.

People cast over fish all the time !

For me

V Heavy ground
9000C 40 lb straight through 6 oz flat side plain weight. 30 lb trace forged hooks rotten bottom. Pulley rig. Max dist about 60 yds with an overhead cast

Heavy ground
9000C 30 lb straight through 5 oz flat side plain weight. 25 lb trace forged hooks rotten bottom. Pulley rig. Max dist about 80 yds with an overhead cast

[g.ordon]

I hope people really read your comments and understand the truth of them.

People cast over fish all the time !

For me

V Heavy ground
9000C 40 lb straight through 6 oz flat side plain weight. 30 lb trace forged hooks rotten bottom. Pulley rig. Max dist about 60 yds with an overhead cast

Heavy ground
9000C 30 lb straight through 5 oz flat side plain weight. 25 lb trace forged hooks rotten bottom. Pulley rig. Max dist about 80 yds with an overhead cast

I thought there were some sensible posts previous in this thread, afterall the thread starter was just asking about distance as an option. Yer, sure, they can be at your feet but sometimes not.

[TerryC]

I thought there were some sensible posts previous in this thread, afterall the thread starter was just asking about distance as an option. Yer, sure, they can be at your feet but sometimes not.

....... and sometimes not there at any distance !


I quoted Stores comment as I believe it was pertinent to catching fish over rough ground and in my humble opinion a better option.

It goes without saying that you must use shock leaders with any form of power casting no matter where you fish.

[g.ordon]

....... and sometimes not there at any distance !


I quoted Stores comment as I believe it was pertinent to catching fish over rough ground and in my humble opinion a better option.

It goes without saying that you must use shock leaders with any form of power casting no matter where you fish.

Not at all mate. My reply to your post was in response to your post header 'a bit of sense at last' which to me implied that all the previous posts apart from the one you quoted were stupid. Stores post was good and obviously his reputation as an angler is without question.

I fish eyemouth, st abbs, coldingham and many other shots with a 30 yard lob and get results sometimes but like I said the thread starter was just asking for advice on the option of a big chuck over rough ground to which I think he received some good advice. I personally like to fish two rods on these sort of venues, one short and one long, it just covers more ground at the same time and occasionally the long cast will produce.

[<(Andy2009)>]

Probably...

if you could wind in as quick as people get wound up on here you would never get snagged,
120 yards easy peasey.

Am guessing this is 120yds with bait after the line has snapped and theres no friction/tension to stop the lead n bait goin that far...

[Deans]

Been a very keen cod angler for as long as i can remember, like many of you, one thing you notice is that the angler beside you always knows better.
.............. a classic- 'ive fished this mark before you were born'


another classic- distance doesnt mater .

but its funny how them remarks always come from the angler who has never put time and effort into achieving a long distance cast with a cod bait.

where as the better casters beg to differ.

putting it into a nutshell, we all know that fish can come at any distance, hence -
1. if its flat carm , i would head for the kelpy rock edges (short lobs)
2. if the seas big, i would change reel, and whack into the depths where my bait will not get washed back in

so on a windy day when the seas big really big , the big hitter is always gonna beat the shorter caster.
AND remember the big hitter can cast short tooso all this nonsense about distance not improving consistancy is a load of crap if one is looking at the bigger picture.

i see this argument every year and it always COMES FROM THE SHORT CASTERS

[Deans]

ANYWAYS.

OFF TO BAR- HAPPY NEW YEAR

[arc]

I put this as a reply to a same sort of question 2 years ago in a thread about whether fishing at distance was worth it no matter what ground was being fished , I dont think my reply has changed .

My reply was "Those that cant fish at distance usually say no . Those that can usually say yes . On the occasions long casting is needed those that cant will never know ."

Just my opinion of course but in the last 12 months Ive had approx 100 + lads from this site and others approach me for casting lessons . Maybe something in it ?

P.S. Happy New Year everyone all the best for 2012 .

[g.ordon]

I put this as a reply to a same sort of question 2 years ago in a thread about whether fishing at distance was worth it no matter what ground was being fished , I dont think my reply has changed .

My reply was "Those that cant fish at distance usually say no . Those that can usually say yes . On the occasions long casting is needed those that cant will never know ."

Just my opinion of course but in the last 12 months Ive had approx 100 + lads from this site and others approach me for casting lessons . Maybe something in it ?

P.S. Happy New Year everyone all the best for 2012 .

Yer, you may just be right arc. All the best.

[Deans]

I put this as a reply to a same sort of question 2 years ago in a thread about whether fishing at distance was worth it no matter what ground was being fished , I dont think my reply has changed .

My reply was "Those that cant fish at distance usually say no . Those that can usually say yes . On the occasions long casting is needed those that cant will never know ."

Just my opinion of course but in the last 12 months Ive had approx 100 + lads from this site and others approach me for casting lessons . Maybe something in it ?

P.S. Happy New Year everyone all the best for 2012 .

HERE. HERE . BRAVO . BRAVO

......................spot on

[Rocker]

I put this as a reply to a same sort of question 2 years ago in a thread about whether fishing at distance was worth it no matter what ground was being fished , I dont think my reply has changed .

My reply was "Those that cant fish at distance usually say no . Those that can usually say yes . On the occasions long casting is needed those that cant will never know ."

Just my opinion of course but in the last 12 months Ive had approx 100 + lads from this site and others approach me for casting lessons . Maybe something in it ?

P.S. Happy New Year everyone all the best for 2012 .

Exactly! I CAN cast 120 yards EASILY with bait, 30lbs sraight through, never cracked off, I can show any of you, DEAL WITH IT!! when I put my speedmaster on I can fish out to 150 yards FACT! Haha easy when you know how, LEARN!

[TerryC]

Been a very keen cod angler for as long as i can remember, like many of you, one thing you notice is that the angler beside you always knows better.
.............. a classic- 'ive fished this mark before you were born'


another classic- distance doesnt mater .

but its funny how them remarks always come from the angler who has never put time and effort into achieving a long distance cast with a cod bait.

where as the better casters beg to differ.

putting it into a nutshell, we all know that fish can come at any distance, hence -
1. if its flat carm , i would head for the kelpy rock edges (short lobs)
2. if the seas big, i would change reel, and whack into the depths where my bait will not get washed back in

so on a windy day when the seas big really big , the big hitter is always gonna beat the shorter caster.
AND remember the big hitter can cast short tooso all this nonsense about distance not improving consistancy is a load of crap if one is looking at the bigger picture.

i see this argument every year and it always COMES FROM THE SHORT CASTERS

I am only 5'5" does that make me a short caster ;¬)

[lambengland]

Been a very keen cod angler for as long as i can remember, like many of you, one thing you notice is that the angler beside you always knows better.
.............. a classic- 'ive fished this mark before you were born'


another classic- distance doesnt mater .

but its funny how them remarks always come from the angler who has never put time and effort into achieving a long distance cast with a cod bait.

where as the better casters beg to differ.

putting it into a nutshell, we all know that fish can come at any distance, hence -
1. if its flat carm , i would head for the kelpy rock edges (short lobs)
2. if the seas big, i would change reel, and whack into the depths where my bait will not get washed back in

so on a windy day when the seas big really big , the big hitter is always gonna beat the shorter caster.
AND remember the big hitter can cast short tooso all this nonsense about distance not improving consistancy is a load of crap if one is looking at the bigger picture.

i see this argument every year and it always COMES FROM THE SHORT CASTERS

Sounds like the old 'my dads harder than your dad' haha