Fishing at distance over rough ground

[<(Andy2009)>]

I've generally been getting my fish recently at distance on an Up 'n' Over pennel rig armed with either 3/0 or 4/0 hooks with a big crab or razorfish bait cocktailed with one or two yellowtail worm.

I agree with what the others say adam, for any sort of power casting your best off using a shockleader, currently im using 25lb Sakuma Dark crystal with 70lb shockleader for the type of fishing your wanting to do.

The problem with using 30lb straight through though is that you'll get less line on the spool, but the shockleader helps as you can put more into your cast and it also helps as a rubbing leader when hauling ya cod through the rough stuff . 30lb line with a Shockleader (I also do this for the heavy stuff), and you should be spot on buddy.

[big_sean]

This is so easy

Try using suffix tritanium 20lb but tie the leader on using a bimini twist

then use a 10lb rotten bottom for the lead and a hook length of 20lb amnesia

the hook or lead will 99% break first

i use this for all my rough ground fishing even in heavy kelp

since i started this my catch rates went up as i can get a very good distance if required but also a short lob if needed


Sean

[codseeker]

a carnt cast to save me life ,prob reason is i use 30lb line and fish piers or rock marks ,sometimes beaches but can adjust to lighter line which ive seen distance improve when fishing down the holderness coast etc ,but sometimes ya dont need distance the fish are close in ,if ya baits in the right place at the right time ya probs into a good chance of hooking into fish ,if not move around and adjust ya distance close in where ya fishing ya shud pick sommit up ,if all else fails and theres fk all about head home simple as

[topbanana]

i've just started using 30lb sufix tritanium on a 535 mag with a leader and can put a clipped down rig a good distance. but in all honesty theres not many places round here in heavy ground where you need to be lashing the tits off it.

[clarky]

30lb straight through and a clipped pennel pulley.

He's on about blasting weights out as far as he can!
With that set up he'll either seriously injure or kill someone one day

[clarky]

I've got 30lb main and a 80lb leader, I use gemini rotten bottoms as I feel if I do wish to put more into the cast then they are safe and the line set up am using won't snap of and injure someone.
Remember though even when your using a shock/rubbing leader to check it regular, I replace mine after every trip out as it will get damaged ova rocks and pulling up cliffs

[wavy davy]

He's on about blasting weights out as far as he can!
With that set up he'll either seriously injure or kill someone one day

He was asking peoples preference at distance not 'blasting weights out', distance is achieved through technique and not pure power, i fish cliffs/rocks on my own occasionally with my bro so there is never anyone around and i have never had a crack off, if i was going to 'blast weights out' i would use a shockleader. After all its common sence.

[Rocker]

He was asking peoples preference at distance not 'blasting weights out', distance is achieved through technique and not pure power, i fish cliffs/rocks on my own occasionally with my bro so there is never anyone around and i have never had a crack off, if i was going to 'blast weights out' i would use a shockleader. After all its common sence.

Exactly! When I fish 30lb straight through I'm also using a home made clipped rotton bottom, so power castings out anyway. Even a smooth cast gets you 100-120 yards with bait! If I need to cast further my slosh comes off and my shimano speedmaster goes on, 18-20lb mainline with a shockleader. Safety first! A lot of the time 50 yards is too far anyway!

[davidhayley1945]

i've just started using 30lb sufix tritanium on a 535 mag with a leader and can put a clipped down rig a good distance. but in all honesty theres not many places round here in heavy ground where you need to be lashing the tits off it.

totaly agree all my big fish have been caught 40 to 50 yards out,no need to cast 120 to 140 yards ,you have more chance of landing your fish just lobbing it a short distance on our local marks best of luck adam either way . davy.

[jimmy]

20 lb F1, then a 70lb leader at a length of 25ft min, that takes the strain of ya cast if trying to get max distance and also as Andy says, it acts as a rubbing leader, wouldnt care if i had 30 or 40 line straight through i wouldnt be trying for max distance, its an accident waiting to happen in my opinion

[lobsterman]

This is so easy

Try using suffix tritanium 20lb but tie the leader on using a bimini twist

then use a 10lb rotten bottom for the lead and a hook length of 20lb amnesia

the hook or lead will 99% break first

i use this for all my rough ground fishing even in heavy kelp

since i started this my catch rates went up as i can get a very good distance if required but also a short lob if needed


Sean

not been funny mate but using 20lb hook length when fishing for cod especaily over hard/kelpy ground is total madness imo.

i wouldnt use anything below 40lb for me hook lengths and even sometimes use 60lb clear powerflex when im fishing ne were with a lift.

i hope it never happens but i can see you geting smashed a few times of good fish using 20lb hooklength. id look to start using summit stronger cos yav got no chance of getting decent fish through kelp with 20lb.

tight lines.

[Deans]

best tip is to fish up a height.

that way your more likely to get your fish back on light gear as long as its strong enough to hoist up fish

[Deans]

totaly agree all my big fish have been caught 40 to 50 yards out,no need to cast 120 to 140 yards ,you have more chance of landing your fish just lobbing it a short distance on our local marks best of luck adam either way . davy.

yep. well said

[arc]

totaly agree all my big fish have been caught 40 to 50 yards out,no need to cast 120 to 140 yards ,you have more chance of landing your fish just lobbing it a short distance on our local marks best of luck adam either way . davy.

Just a thought but think of all them days when lobbing 40 to 50yds produced a blank perhaps a bait at distance into some tide may of produced that bonus fish until you try it you'll never know , getting the bite and hooking it may be the easy bit getting it back may be just a bit harder .

[Cod,cod,cod!]

Exactly! When I fish 30lb straight through I'm also using a home made clipped rotton bottom, so power castings out anyway. Even a smooth cast gets you 100-120 yards with bait! If I need to cast further my slosh comes off and my shimano speedmaster goes on, 18-20lb mainline with a shockleader. Safety first! A lot of the time 50 yards is too far anyway!

Thats a canny cast 120yards with a decent cod bait and 30lb line straight through!