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seems to be a higher % of hooked fish ,not really noticed the bites improving ,but beforhand i was getting the knocks but none hooked
id sooner catch little and often than not at all
To be Honest a bites as good as a fish to me if you know it\'s the chickens at it. I\'ll miss bites all day for the chance of a lunker. And I do believe you\'ve a better chance with a fat boy bait.
Will post this again. Did a bit of a test a few weeks ago. Three different rigs. Scratching rig with size 1/0 hooks Distance rig with size 1 hooks and my usual pennel rig with 4/0 hooks. The 4/0 pennel hooks won easily. As Micky says it won\'t always work but my belief is use what you are confident with.
Jim.
Remember, some people are alive simply because it is illegal to shoot them.
I always use big baits in areas where the bait has to stay out a bit longer [kelp beds etc] the big bait gives off maximum scent and you do not have to drag it in every 2 mins and get snagged up
Mick, 2 things.
One, why did you use a 4/0? surely a big hook leads to less fish also (as per your previous argument)
Two, Silvers are key to your argument. I\'ve fished next to people using exactly the same size cod bait before EXCEPT they\'ve added a silver on the end and been hammered, and vice versa. Try it with a single lugworm on a 4/0 in a big sea or on the rock ends, and see how it works.
It all depends on conditions, nothing else. Heres a scenario for all of you....
You go down to your local pier, seas just dying down after 5 days of gale force northerlies, perfect roll on. You\'ve got runnidown, squid, and mussel for bait. How would you bait up.....
a) a single lugworm, or a small cocktail on a 4/0
b) A big cocktail of all three baits.
One thing you can\'t deny is big baits = big scent trail = more chance of any fish sniffing your bait out.
I\'m not a devout fan of either way of fishing, I\'ll change to whatever the conditions/ground in front of me dictate, but personally I love throwing a big cocktail bait into a lovely rolling sea waiting for that first slack liner!!
Mick, 2 things.
One, why did you use a 4/0? surely a big hook leads to less fish also (as per your previous argument)
Two, Silvers are key to your argument. I\'ve fished next to people using exactly the same size cod bait before EXCEPT they\'ve added a silver on the end and been hammered, and vice versa. Try it with a single lugworm on a 4/0 in a big sea or on the rock ends, and see how it works.
It all depends on conditions, nothing else. Heres a scenario for all of you....
You go down to your local pier, seas just dying down after 5 days of gale force northerlies, perfect roll on. You\'ve got runnidown, squid, and mussel for bait. How would you bait up.....
a) a single lugworm, or a small cocktail on a 4/0
b) A big cocktail of all three baits.
One thing you can\'t deny is big baits = big scent trail = more chance of any fish sniffing your bait out.
I\'m not a devout fan of either way of fishing, I\'ll change to whatever the conditions/ground in front of me dictate, but personally I love throwing a big cocktail bait into a lovely rolling sea waiting for that first slack liner!!
there is no doubting that your thinking is logical davy, i used to think exactly the same as you for a long time. the thing that made me rethink was when i started to fish two rods on most of my sessions, one fishing big baits on 4/0 or 5/0 vikings the other size 1s and small baits. there was no doubt over a period of time the small baits / hooks outfished the big baits / hooks by quite some way (for fish of ALL sizes). the only down side i found was if fishing a pier where there was a significant sea running or big lift i did loose a couple of nice fish on the lift.
time to experiment again, two rods side by side both with 4/0s on but big baits on one rod small baits on other. result similar number of bites on both rods but much better hookup ratio on small baits.
at least 90% of my fishing is done with smaller hooks but if i think theres a reasonable chance of a biggie i\'ll up the hook size but keep the baits to a reasonably small size.
fish the tactics that work for you though, i\'ve never been one to follow the masses, much prefer to do my own thing.
depends on the venue look at the size of this bait to the size of the fish it quite obviously proves that if it can eat it, it will have a good go at it, presentation is a major factor in bait sizes etc. i personally think that if it is done correctly hook points showing nicely then a hook up will not be problem when using big baits.....
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