off setting hooks

[john/r]

do many of you believe if you off set a hook it results in more fish.

a lot of hooks these days come straight.

just been reading on another forum a guy telling another guy to offset his hooks saying it will result in more fish now i have heard this before.

what do you think ???

[TOMMY NEPTUNE]

Well I remember many moons ago (early nineties), while fishing a Tynemouth club match on the pier, I had just read about offsetting hooks and increasing your catch rate, and had thrown a pair of pliers into my box with the intention of giving it a try. I cast out with a normal hooked bait, then sat myself down to offset a couple of hooks for the next cast, holding the shank with one hand and the pliers in the other I went for the bend, then BANG!! the hook snapped I was left still holding half the shank and the rest of the 5/0chemicaly sharpened Kamasan sticking through one side of my finger with the barbed end sticking out of the other side, so a trip to rake lane hospital was required...lol..just a cautionery tale as not to be daft enough..(like I was to use cast hooks...) I never bothered even trying it again after that.

[lingking]

do believe i have seen some for sale some wherebut that may be a hallucination brought on by taking too much morphine

[codcatcher3000]

was told in a tackle shop last yr that they ware semi circle hooks ar the best ...unfortunately when i was interested theyv were out of stock so never tried them but its something about self setting in the jaw if the fish

[Topfly]

My old man used to offset the bend on his cod hooks and always had first time hookups, maybe there were more fish about then. it was probably that if the point of the hook touched the inside of the fishes mouth, it was more likely to penetrate than if it were in line with the shank, they were quite gapey hooks as well, and had to be kept sharp with a stone or needle file. nowadays most hooks are machine or chem sharpened, and dont take kindly to any messing about. You could offset the VMCs and Vikings but not overdo it because although you could land a big fish on them, they will straighten out pulling them from a fast hold. Sakuma are the same, but the Sakuma Extra are stronger and thicker but cant be tampered with. IMHO

[codcatcher3000]

tried ebay found this dont think its what u want ...or is it ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GAMAKATSU-WORM-HOOKS-3-0-OFFSET-SHANK-EWG-QTY-10-/220722119904?pt=UK_SportingGoods_FishingAcces_RL&hash=item33641044e0

[canman]

If I remember rightly, they were kirbey hooks. They take a little more consentration threading a worm on them though.

[fozally]

There was a match angler in Sea Angler years ago and very successful (down South) who use to off set his hooks for a better hook up rate. Kamasans are fairly brittle when you over bend them but vikings usualy dont snap when I have done them.

[MT2]

Have a look at Mustard 4447B and 4446B Great hooks and price.

[CHUKKA]

Offset all my sakumas, I definitely think it results in more fish. Suppose its a confidence thing. Try pulling a straight hook then a offset hook through your fingers!

[garry36]

[SCOTSLAD]

Try some Owner or Sakuma circle hooks, brilliant for the fish setting the hook themselves just inside the mouth.

[john/r]

Offset all my sakumas, I definitely think it results in more fish. Suppose its a confidence thing. Try pulling a straight hook then a offset hook through your fingers!

obviously this makes sense.

now with circle hooks the point goes inwards so pulling these thro your fingers they wont catch if you no what i mean but they do seem popular.

ok going to describe what the late dick shenton used to do at seaham years ago and this man new more than i will ever no about fishing.

he used to bend the point outwards with pliers very carefuly so the point of hook would be in line with the barb, obviously these pulled thro fingers would catch easily makes sense to me more than circle hooks to be honest.

[harry barker]

obviously this makes sense.

now with circle hooks the point goes inwards so pulling these thro your fingers they wont catch if you no what i mean but they do seem popular.

ok going to describe what the late dick shenton used to do at seaham years ago and this man new more than i will ever no about fishing.

he used to bend the point outwards with pliers very carefuly so the point of hook would be in line with the barb, obviously these pulled thro fingers would catch easily makes sense to me more than circle hooks to be honest.

Yes,Dick was a guru to sea angling John,a thinking fisherman and one of the best I have ever known,he never bragged about his success and would talk sea fishing all day,but not in a trumpet blowing way.
Can you remember his rig for catching thornbacks off the Hall...you could call it a pulley but not in the way know it today.

[john/r]

hi harry no i dont no of dicks rig for thornies off hall but would like to no.

he also had a conger off the hall yrs ago the caves area 25lb in wieght he was using a scarborough.

dick actualy wrote a book did,nt publisise it though he lent me it brilliant.
dicks son is a copy of his dad a great lad get on well wth him hell of an angler and bait digger but goes mainly shooting now.

can you remember his spinners we knocked another mould up for the 8 ounce ones richard came thro mine ha had his dads templates bloody marvelous spinners from half ounce up to 8 ounce.

for some reason never been keen on hall myself but it obviously does thro a lot of fish up.

dream machine s have you still got. john