Rig making problems

[canman]

I've done them with crimps myself, but a little too much pressure with the pliers and they're over tight, so just a bit more fiddly. If your nails are short, very difficult to get the crimps to slide.

[<(Andy2009)>]

Lets easily fix the problem straight away, just use a pulley rig instead!! No crimps or stop knots to worry about, unless your using an impact shield or possibly cascade swivels.

Suprised nobody picked this up earlier, a dont usually have a brainstorm like this!!

[shaun]

Lets easily fix the problem straight away, just use a pulley rig instead!! No crimps or stop knots to worry about, unless your using an impact shield or possibly cascade swivels.

Suprised nobody picked this up earlier, a dont usually have a brainstorm like this!!

not everyone likes pully rigs though and unless you get them perfect you put all the pressure on hook snood and hook. i find silicone tubing is the best for cliped down rigs, much easyer to make and if your hook is bent pulling out of a snag or cut off in a fish you can tie a new hook on and slide tubing down to adjust to fit on bait clip.

[MickA]

I mainly use crimps now but used to use telephone wire. Strip some phone cable down to get the inner thin wires. Just twist a section of wire around your trace body so you end up with a compact section of about 20mm or so (so it looks like a small spring with the line thru the middle). Slide them upto your beads then twist the tight. The tension of them can be adjusted by tightening the twist right up so its locked solid or untwisting it a bit to allow it to slide under pressure.
Bit of a fanny on to begin with but once you get the knack it only take a few seconds to coil some wire around the trace.

[Stewart 1971]

not everyone likes pully rigs though and unless you get them perfect you put all the pressure on hook snood and hook. i find silicone tubing is the best for cliped down rigs, much easyer to make and if your hook is bent pulling out of a snag or cut off in a fish you can tie a new hook on and slide tubing down to adjust to fit on bait clip.

Agree 100%. Pulley Rigs are a poor choice of rig for clean to light mixed ground fishing, an old fashioned fixed paternoster rig will give a much better hook up rate. And of course once you move onto different rigs like 2 / 3 hook flappers, wishbones, Portsmouth loop rigs, bomber rigs etc etc then you can't use the pulley principle anyway.

Over time I've graduated from nylon stop knots to crimps and now onto neoprene tubing which IMHO is brilliant for rig making. One slider above the bead / swivel / bead and four below and it's not going anywhere but can still be easily adjusted if necessary. Using the neoprene tubing I can knock up a single clip down paternoster in a couple of minutes and flapper rigs in not much more time. Brilliant stuff.

[<(Andy2009)>]

Dont diss the pully rig!

Agree 100%. Pulley Rigs are a poor choice of rig for clean to light mixed ground fishing, an old fashioned fixed paternoster rig will give a much better hook up rate. And of course once you move onto different rigs like 2 / 3 hook flappers, wishbones, Portsmouth loop rigs, bomber rigs etc etc then you can't use the pulley principle anyway.

Over time I've graduated from nylon stop knots to crimps and now onto neoprene tubing which IMHO is brilliant for rig making. One slider above the bead / swivel / bead and four below and it's not going anywhere but can still be easily adjusted if necessary. Using the neoprene tubing I can knock up a single clip down paternoster in a couple of minutes and flapper rigs in not much more time. Brilliant stuff.

There aint nowt wrong with pully rigs. I use them al the time nearly and have had absolutely no problems with them. Never bent or damaged hooks or snapped and so on.

And Malcom, you will actually get a better hook ups using a pulley. as the fish bites the bait it wil pull against the weight, which most of the time will mean the fish wil hook itself.

I do use different rigs, but I always find pulley rigs convinient for any situation.

As I said in a earlier post, its all down to personal preference.

[YoursTruly]

Using tubing is fair enough however if thats your choice of fixing the swivell in place then use the Mustad PVC tubing instead of silicone which is a little too soft to hold swivell in place.
The Pvc tubing will be a lot better for the job.

[john/r]

There aint nowt wrong with pully rigs. I use them al the time nearly and have had absolutely no problems with them. Never bent or damaged hooks or snapped and so on.

And Malcom, you will actually get a better hook ups using a pulley. as the fish bites the bait it wil pull against the weight, which most of the time will mean the fish wil hook itself.

I do use different rigs, but I always find pulley rigs convinient for any situation.

As I said in a earlier post, its all down to personal preference.

myself i think pulley rigs are easy quick to make up hence reason why a lot of people use them.

[kingcod deano]

I've been making my own rigs for quite a while now, and am using the blood loop knot for cheapness instead of crimps - but for the life of me I cant get the blood knot to finish next to my beads.

e.g.

What I want is:

---xO&Ox------

where - is the rig main body, x is the blood knot, O is the bead, and & is the swivel.

What Im ending up with is:

---x--O&Ox------


No matter how hard I try, I cant get the blood loop knot to shift RIGHT next to the bead. Is there something Im not doing ?????

can you not just use a 3 way swivel instead ?

[<(Andy2009)>]

myself i think pulley rigs are easy quick to make up hence reason why a lot of people use them.

Exactly mate. Simple, and more to the point, SAFE. Ssot on there mate.

P.s. Ive pm'd u bout the reel.

[g.ordon]

All I do is use a 3 way swivel with the shocker running straight through and one extra loop when going out. Yes it sounds novice but it's simple to do, makes it easy adjustable and maintains full strength in the leader and occasionally catches a fish. From a lazy angler, that's my opinion anyway.

[northumberland swordfish]

dont want to sound like an arse

But Take a look

Soft Copper Crimps 8mm x 0.80mm from £1.65 - EliteRigs


rimps are strong, and you can put them exactly where you want them