Rig making problems

[captainhook]

I've been making my own rigs for quite a while now, and am using the blood loop knot for cheapness instead of crimps - but for the life of me I cant get the blood knot to finish next to my beads.

e.g.

What I want is:

---xO&Ox------

where - is the rig main body, x is the blood knot, O is the bead, and & is the swivel.

What Im ending up with is:

---x--O&Ox------


No matter how hard I try, I cant get the blood loop knot to shift RIGHT next to the bead. Is there something Im not doing ?????

[Billzo]

u need power gum in 14lb m8 & u make sliding stop knots.
& this is how u do them-
Stop Knot

[anthony stobbart]

I've been making my own rigs for quite a while now, and am using the blood loop knot for cheapness instead of crimps - but for the life of me I cant get the blood knot to finish next to my beads.

e.g.

What I want is:

---xO&Ox------

where - is the rig main body, x is the blood knot, O is the bead, and & is the swivel.

What Im ending up with is:

---x--O&Ox------


No matter how hard I try, I cant get the blood loop knot to shift RIGHT next to the bead. Is there something Im not doing ?????

are you tying the knots with the same trace body or another line on to the line to make this blood knot???

[anthony stobbart]

u need power gum in 14lb m8 & u make sliding stop knots.
& this is how u do them-
Stop Knot

yeah blizo is spot on,its much neater and is canny stuff use it for float fishing.

[gary2010]

does normal mono not work for stopknots iv tried but never suceeded lol maybe will have to get some power gum

[Billzo]

does normal mono not work for stopknots iv tried but never suceeded lol maybe will have to get some power gum

power gum is much better m8 as it stretches like elastic & bites tighter 2 ya main rig body.
i have used mono b4 but better with smler diameter line around 18-20lb but only on snoods as bait stops.

[gary2010]

just need to get something sorted for using 1 hook so that the worm doesnt slide up my line when i cast. using pennel rigs at the min but in a few month il be going to single hooks or 2 single hooks cliped down a bead and stop knot is what im thinking or gemini tubing stuff

[john/r]

does normal mono not work for stopknots iv tried but never suceeded lol maybe will have to get some power gum

i use stop knots a lot instead of crimps often,i use 12lb mono and tie three stops together that way they dont move but can be moved individualy ie three knots together wont move time consuming to some rigs but safer than crimps.

[Billzo]

just need to get something sorted for using 1 hook so that the worm doesnt slide up my line when i cast. using pennel rigs at the min but in a few month il be going to single hooks or 2 single hooks cliped down a bead and stop knot is what im thinking or gemini tubing stuff

tubing is ok m8 but if u have bead then stop knot on ya snood & its clipped down the tubing still slides up in the cast with pressure from the bead, the power gum gets a good hold if when u tie it u pull it tight.
& power gum is cheap as chips & lasts a long time if u just use bits around 2 1/2-3inches.
Drennan Power Gum. * pike fishing tackle * all colours on eBay (end time 05-Jan-11 15:54:26 GMT)

[captainhook]

I'd never actually heard of power gum, Ill take a look. Ill also give the stop knot a whirl too. Thanks lads!

[FISHERMAN]

carnt beat the crimps !

[canman]

You can't beat the coil wire which comes with beads on a square piece of plastic, (can't recall its name right now), but if you change your hook for what ever reason, that means the trace is shorter and now won't reach the clip, just unwind the main line from the half inch wire coil and reset once the new hook is tied on. Simple and totally effective, not so easy with knots or crimps.

[g-force]

You can't beat the coil wire which comes with beads on a square piece of plastic, (can't recall its name right now), but if you change your hook for what ever reason, that means the trace is shorter and now won't reach the clip, just unwind the main line from the half inch wire coil and reset once the new hook is tied on. Simple and totally effective, not so easy with knots or crimps.

I think they're the Breakaway Coil Crimps - never tried them myself but they do look effective.

Gary

[The Great Wallsendo]

I've been using the breakaway coil crimps for years, they're very good indeed and easy to re-use

[ChrisH]

You can't beat the coil wire which comes with beads on a square piece of plastic, (can't recall its name right now), but if you change your hook for what ever reason, that means the trace is shorter and now won't reach the clip, just unwind the main line from the half inch wire coil and reset once the new hook is tied on. Simple and totally effective, not so easy with knots or crimps.

Yes you can make rigs adjustable with crimps; just don't crimp them too tight. Just tight enough to hold the hooklength/beads/swivel in place; and then if you need to replace a hook for whatever reason you can slide the crimps down into their new position to suit the shorter hook length.
I've caught fish up to 19 1/2 lbs on rigs made like that and the fish have never made the crimps slide out of position. Even if they did, it's easy to slide them back.
I regularly re-use my main rig bodies and just replace hook lengths, and because the crimps are moveable, I have no problem getting the hooklength correct and fit onto the hook clip/impact shield.
Simplez!!