Shed/garage security.

[treeboa]

It is the world we live in, if the police are not aloud to use force against an attack on the future king what chance do you think we have.

the lunatics are running the asylum

[Hiram.A.Biff]

They are great but can see one problem with your post.
What you didn't mention is....
Anyone without a current shotgun certificate cannot buy shotgun cartridges and if anyone was caught even with a cartridge that has had the shot removed, it is a firearms offence.
To stay within the law, you would have to purchase the actual blank firing cartridges that do not have any projectile etc (this includes the powder & wad within a cartridge).
It is the primer alone that makes the loud bang.

Putting anything within a cartridge, including pepper, is an offence as you are then adding a projectile, even if it is facing away from the door.

I don't mind anyone protecting their equipment / sheds etc, but what I don't agree with is folk that are not licenced, getting hold of live cartridges etc.
I am a shotgun certificate holder & have been for 25 years & people getting arrested for firearms offences will just make it even harder for us legal certificate holders to get renewals in the future.

Not getting at you mind Hiram m8, just voicing my opinion.

Fair comment.
I was unaware of the fact you now have to have a Firearms Cert to have a cartridge, I asked a mate for a couple as I didnt want to buy a bag of 20 blanks. Think I will take a gamble on anyone calling plod and saying, "I was breaking into this garage officer and there was a big bang etc etc...

[kingcod deano]

another one i'v heard of is wirering the shed door handle to the mains.personally i think thats shocking !

i know a lad who has done that and is still using it works a treat

[Lowrider]

Good idea I have a night vision camera recording inside and outside my shed 24/7 it might not stop them thieving but Ile know who done it

Not really worth it mate as hoods or mask are pretty much the norm for that reason.

[5150]

Pure chilli oil extract, the stuff that comes with lots of warnings, takes just a drop but get it in the wrong place and you don't ever make the same mistake again. Choosing where to places the drops is the hard part of course, but if you know where a scumbag lives then his door handle is a top choice - how people many walk into the house and straight to the loo.......

[dazzer]

Fair comment.
I was unaware of the fact you now have to have a Firearms Cert to have a cartridge, I asked a mate for a couple as I didnt want to buy a bag of 20 blanks. Think I will take a gamble on anyone calling plod and saying, "I was breaking into this garage officer and there was a big bang etc etc...

It is a shotgun certificate that is needed m8, a firearms certificate is different although they are all under firearms offences.
You don't need any certificate to buy proper blank firing cartridges or rounds.
The problem is that as soon as a shot is heard, people are on the phone and the armed response turns out.
If they find any type of cartridge or round that has been live and adapted, they will search harder and arrest the person concerned.

Just be carefull Hiram m8, I wouldn't like to hear of you or anyone getting done for a firearms offence for the sake of buying a few legal blanks where there is no chance of getting jailed, it's just not worth it.

[treeboa]

It is a shotgun certificate that is needed m8, a firearms certificate is different although they are all under firearms offences.
You don't need any certificate to buy proper blank firing cartridges or rounds.
The problem is that as soon as a shot is heard, people are on the phone and the armed response turns out.
If they find any type of cartridge or round that has been live and adapted, they will search harder and arrest the person concerned.

Just be carefull Hiram m8, I wouldn't like to hear of you or anyone getting done for a firearms offence for the sake of buying a few legal blanks where there is no chance of getting jailed, it's just not worth it.

honest officer he saw me and pulled out a pistol and popped a shot off

[paulthespark]

another one i'v heard of is wirering the shed door handle to the mains.personally i think thats shocking !

that is definitely a no no, i am an electrician and could easily do that, the trouble is that anyone grabbing the handle would not be able to let go as ac voltage pulses at 50 times per second, which would if you grabbed the handle firmly make every muscle in your body do the same including your lungs, you would die of asphyxiation within two minutes, even when you are dead your hand will still not let go until you turn the power off ,then you are in deep **** with a murder charge hanging over your head ,the other thing is what if you forgot to switch the power off [which happens] and a innocent like a young child grabbed hold of the handle , in my opinion it is totally irresponsible to post something like this on this forum it is extremely dangerous

[Hiram.A.Biff]

It is a shotgun certificate that is needed m8, a firearms certificate is different although they are all under firearms offences.
You don't need any certificate to buy proper blank firing cartridges or rounds.
The problem is that as soon as a shot is heard, people are on the phone and the armed response turns out.
If they find any type of cartridge or round that has been live and adapted, they will search harder and arrest the person concerned.

Just be carefull Hiram m8, I wouldn't like to hear of you or anyone getting done for a firearms offence for the sake of buying a few legal blanks where there is no chance of getting jailed, it's just not worth it.

Fair point I suppose dazzer.

[mick dunn]

We recently had a lecture on cannabis farms where the crims wired up the premises for defence-not only from the Police but also other crims.
Doors had the cheap shotgun things with live cartridges attached. Handles were wired to the mains and windowsills were made of cardboard with sharpened spikes underneath.
as to the law i know farmers use them. As to the public i would have to look into that.
Mick.

[Hiram.A.Biff]

We recently had a lecture on cannabis farms where the crims wired up the premises for defence-not only from the Police but also other crims.
Doors had the cheap shotgun things with live cartridges attached. Handles were wired to the mains and windowsills were made of cardboard with sharpened spikes underneath.
as to the law i know farmers use them. As to the public i would have to look into that.
Mick.

I gave up my shotguns and license 20 years ago, When i first looked into using these to protect my vans and garage, I was under the impression that you were only committing an offence if you pointed it at the door, in that case you could be prosecuted under the 1760 (circa) mantrap laws. I could be wrong, and in todays society these laws may well have been changed.