looking highly likely the scum have won the dayon roker pier

[cod father]

Well the scum have won.so bloody sadalso fishing os getting banned altogether on peir

[cod father]

Sad sad day for the genuine fisherman.makes my blood fooking boil.

[Nooo Fish]

Is it official that fishing has been banned permanently or just rumours?

[Geodark]

Is it official that fishing has been banned permanently or just rumours?

just something being contemplated I think. Nothing definite yet. Can see it happening though. Saying that if the licensed it I wouldn't mind paying to fish in there in peace

[Nooo Fish]

just something being contemplated I think. Nothing definite yet. Can see it happening though. Saying that if the licensed it I wouldn't mind paying to fish in there in peace

I'd pay for a permit as well mate. As long as they enforced the need for them.

Cod father had me worried there.

[cod father]

Read all about it in tonights echo.they even on about changeing bylaw so public not allowed on at all.shows you that the coucil are been serious about it.have a read n see what you nake of it noo fish

[g.ordon]

just shows how a few knackers can fook it up for all.

Take ssp, it only takes one of the numpties who stand on the wall at the end to fall in and they'll be no more fishin there

[01kayak]

i thought the work on the pier was being funded by the lottery if so
it should be open for the public as that is who has paid for the repair

[flatrock]

ban angling may-sept

why dont they do what some councils do around ban fishing may-sept this would nip the problem in the bud. no mackerel = no problems!

[regpude]

well.

i thought the work on the pier was being funded by the lottery if so
it should be open for the public as that is who has paid for the repair

.good point that there like ???????.suppose well have to wait @ sea..

[Stewart 1971]

i thought the work on the pier was being funded by the lottery if so
it should be open for the public as that is who has paid for the repair

The problem is a small minority of "anglers" make it something of an unpleaseant experience for the general public, and as the council are putting a lot of effort in to refurbishing the pier as a tourist attraction putting a stop to this behaviour is a no-brainer for them.

And we can't just blame the Mackerel bashers, I've been on there in the depths of winter and the place has been a disgrace with rubbish everywhere and stinking of p*ss

[dale19]

The problem is a small minority of "anglers" make it something of an unpleaseant experience for the general public, and as the council are putting a lot of effort in to refurbishing the pier as a tourist attraction putting a stop to this behaviour is a no-brainer for them.

And we can't just blame the Mackerel bashers, I've been on there in the depths of winter and the place has been a disgrace with rubbish everywhere and stinking of p*ss

total agree with stewart on points made

[snatcher]

The problem is countrywide I am afraid. I do quite a bit litter collection over on the Mull of Galloway each year. The flat rock/Terally Bay and East Tarbet are normally the worst. Discarded line,bait packets,beer bottles/cans,disposable BBQs etc.

Fence posts have also been dug up to be used on anglers fires !!!!

The real sickener is seeing piles of dogfish dumped above the high water mark,Terally Bay is particularly bad for this.

Last time I had a stoll along South Shields pier with the wife just could not help myself and started picking up anglers discards !!!!

I think the way forward is to educate the young anglers about codes of conduct and having concideration for others.

Here endeth todays lesson.

John

[Paddlesac]

just shows how a few knackers can fook it up for all.

Take ssp, it only takes one of the numpties who stand on the wall at the end to fall in and they'll be no more fishin there

Like this perhaps?

The character on the wall actually seemed a canny enough kid ( I say "kid", he told the lad from port of tyne, who asked him to get down, that he was 33 and was happy to continue standing on the wall at his own risk). He seemed to know what he was doing, lure fishing with a single lure and getting almost a fish a chuck, including a codling. The sad part came when, after bagging right up on mackerel, he decided he couldn't be arsed to gut the "bag for life" full of fish he'd caught during the day and palmed them off onto an older bloke fishing the rail, who apparently told the lad he; "didn't need any more fish, that's why I've been chucking them back in" He took them anyway, then in turn palmed them off onto a group of schoolkids who turned up shortly before he himself left.

or maybe this?:

This character was sitting dropping a lure close to the wall and eventually pulled in a pollock of about 3lbs (ish) whatever the weight, he couldn't wind the fish up the wall so had to stand on the wall and hand ball it up, while an "aahd gadgee", wound in the slack for him.

I've sat on the wall myself in order to float fish but wouldn't dream of standing on it.

I don't want to join any club, particularly a fishing club, so the idea of using fishing clubs to police fishing on our piers is out of the question for me.


I've witnessed two occasions in the last 4 years or so, when people have ended up in the water after standing on the wall at the end of Shields pier.

One fell off because he was stoned/pixxed and his "mates" threw him the lifebuoy ( the rescue device not the soap!)the other kept jumping off and clambering back up, either using the ladders on the end or else the ladders nearer the blocks-this toxxer was also either pixxed or stoned.


The ideal solution for me, would be to close the pier to anglers, except those in possession of a permit, for which they would either have paid maybe £10 a day or say, £100 for a years access.

This would certainly weed out most of the shxte but not necessarily all, as I've also witnessed pretty shixxy behaviour from so called "serious anglers" too.

Alas, it would be unworkable because even at that rate, it probably wouldn't be self sustaining.

For a start; you'd need some pretty serious and expensive metal work around the gate and then someone on permanent duty checking permits and making damn sure that none of the "unwashed" got onto the pier with fishing tackle.

The other obvious snag is that to most people, £100 is still a lot of money, it certainly is to me but if it meant for example,that I could lure fish for mackerel, pollock and cod off the pier in summer, without too much risk of injury from flying "plunda's" ( this appears to be chava for "lead weight") and strings of daylights ripping into human flesh, particularly mine, I'd find the money. It would also put an end to the irritating begging of "plunda's", "dayleets" and hooks by both kids and "adults" alike.

I say it wouldn't be self sustaining but then it seems to work "Darn Sarf", where there are indeed piers etc that require a permit to fish them.

Maybe Port of Tyne and Sunderland Council should try looking at the piers as potential financial assets, rather than just huge liabilities?

cheers all

[paul221280]

Like this perhaps?

The character on the wall actually seemed a canny enough kid ( I say "kid", he told the lad from port of tyne, who asked him to get down, that he was 33 and was happy to continue standing on the wall at his own risk). He seemed to know what he was doing, lure fishing with a single lure and getting almost a fish a chuck, including a codling. The sad part came when, after bagging right up on mackerel, he decided he couldn't be arsed to gut the "bag for life" full of fish he'd caught during the day and palmed them off onto an older bloke fishing the rail, who apparently told the lad he; "didn't need any more fish, that's why I've been chucking them back in" He took them anyway, then in turn palmed them off onto a group of schoolkids who turned up shortly before he himself left.

or maybe this?:

This character was sitting dropping a lure close to the wall and eventually pulled in a pollock of about 3lbs (ish) whatever the weight, he couldn't wind the fish up the wall so had to stand on the wall and hand ball it up, while an "aahd gadgee", wound in the slack for him.

I've sat on the wall myself in order to float fish but wouldn't dream of standing on it.

I don't want to join any club, particularly a fishing club, so the idea of using fishing clubs to police fishing on our piers is out of the question for me.


I've witnessed two occasions in the last 4 years or so, when people have ended up in the water after standing on the wall at the end of Shields pier.

One fell off because he was stoned/pixxed and his "mates" threw him the lifebuoy ( the rescue device not the soap!)the other kept jumping off and clambering back up, either using the ladders on the end or else the ladders nearer the blocks-this toxxer was also either pixxed or stoned.


The ideal solution for me, would be to close the pier to anglers, except those in possession of a permit, for which they would either have paid maybe £10 a day or say, £100 for a years access.

This would certainly weed out most of the shxte but not necessarily all, as I've also witnessed pretty shixxy behaviour from so called "serious anglers" too.

Alas, it would be unworkable because even at that rate, it probably wouldn't be self sustaining.

For a start; you'd need some pretty serious and expensive metal work around the gate and then someone on permanent duty checking permits and making damn sure that none of the "unwashed" got onto the pier with fishing tackle.

The other obvious snag is that to most people, £100 is still a lot of money, it certainly is to me but if it meant for example,that I could lure fish for mackerel, pollock and cod off the pier in summer, without too much risk of injury from flying "plunda's" ( this appears to be chava for "lead weight") and strings of daylights ripping into human flesh, particularly mine, I'd find the money. It would also put an end to the irritating begging of "plunda's", "dayleets" and hooks by both kids and "adults" alike.

I say it wouldn't be self sustaining but then it seems to work "Darn Sarf", where there are indeed piers etc that require a permit to fish them.

Maybe Port of Tyne and Sunderland Council should try looking at the piers as potential financial assets, rather than just huge liabilities?

cheers all

I agree with a hell of a lot of what you're saying but we have to be very careful of the road we go down. As for every chav and scumbag there is a decent one just getting into angling and especially the kids, however annoying they maybe! Most cut their teeth on a pier. I have only recently got back into sea fishing after years away chasing salmon & trout which, as we know is not cheap. The main reason i started is my 12 year old son wanted to go and times are hard so thought I'd get him going with a bit of sea fishing cheap and easy access needless to say he loves it and so do i with some advice off the lads on here we've been catching regular and ive had as much fun pulling in flatties with him as i have 20lb salmon. The thing is if you start charging to fish piers you are cutting off a way for a lot of kids to learn and carry the sport on for another generation. Like you i'd happily pay a fee to fish safely but countless others couldn't.