Beggars belief

[big sid]

AGREE WITH REDCARUK THERE IS MORE TO WORRY ABOUT THAN FISH. WHAT ABOUT THE BEE'S APPARENTLY WITH OUT THEM WERE ALL IN THE SH*TE. BUT SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE CREATURES OF THE SEA'S THEY HAVEN'T LONG LEFT ON THIS PLANET AND IF THE BEE'S DECIDE TO FOLLOW THEM, GUESS WHAT

[RedcarUk]

agreed sid was reading without bees there would be no life on earth so next time u squash a bee rember just as easy to open window and gently persuade it out bees are harmless.

wasps on the other hand there buggers we dont need them at all !

[flatheed]

[QUOTE=RedcarUk;213925]a license wouldnt help at all lets get this in perspective a bit


You say it wouldnt help, why wouldnt it help? By having an agency who will address the actions of someone whose behaviour is offensive!

Looks like we will disagree!! I would gladly vote for and pay a licence fee if our sport got rid off these people.

By the way the other stuff is a totally different argument and off the topic in debate!!

[el_sid]

i personally think a licence would help and would happily pay it if piers and coastlines would be patrolled regularly

a few heavy fines dished out for undersize fish, fishing without a license and other offences - people would sharp get the message

yes there are bigger problems going on, BUT that doesnt mean we cant work on smaller problems, small changes further along the line can turn into big changes for the best

[flatheed]

Sadly I believe that the prospect of a licence has all but disappeared with the election of a tory government which is generally committed to the principles of de-regulation.

That said the idea of anglers running a registration/licence scheme with a vested interest in ensuring its success maybe a way forward, just a thought. It would need to have some form of legislative power behind it though.

[lambtonworm]

the issue of sea licences is a absolute non starter,as a keen angler of more than 30 years,and having a coarse fishing licence for the last 20 i can safely state the above opinion,i personally have had 3 checks in that time two in the same week at barmston pond (the local EA office is in the area) and another at woodlands at thirsk,having fished the angel and sharpley on numerous occassions,probably the two biggest and most used fisheries in this area yet never once seen a EA Baliff,its a complete joke,the summer morons wont buy a licence so its the year round angler thats going to be penalised for a piece of paper nobody is going to check,as for the roker situation,why not used a fraction of the money spent on baywatch clones on the beach and use the money to pay for one or two pier supervisors preferable 6ft+ and ex paras to police the piers,any crap and the instigator gets booted off the pier....

[smartmp]

Lanbtonworm....your suggestions make a lot more sense than these ideas that a licience will cure all the problems.

[treeboa]

waste of time, no way would they have enough people to cover just the north east coast, the people who police it would not go up against a gang of pi55ed morons, the police would not be interested, the cps would prob not consider it worth going to court if they did
us idiots who at the end of the day behave generally would be the only ones out of pocket

[Topfly]

I agree with lambtonworm but it is the the police who should be doing the job,and putting a stop to the anti social behaviour, that is what we the public are already paying for. If the piers were patrolled once a day between June/August it would help, after all it is a public place and the police should be seen to be doing their job.

[flatheed]

the issue of sea licences is a absolute non starter,as a keen angler of more than 30 years,and having a coarse fishing licence for the last 20 i can safely state the above opinion,i personally have had 3 checks in that time two in the same week at barmston pond (the local EA office is in the area) and another at woodlands at thirsk,having fished the angel and sharpley on numerous occassions,probably the two biggest and most used fisheries in this area yet never once seen a EA Baliff,its a complete joke,the summer morons wont buy a licence so its the year round angler thats going to be penalised for a piece of paper nobody is going to check,as for the roker situation,why not used a fraction of the money spent on baywatch clones on the beach and use the money to pay for one or two pier supervisors preferable 6ft+ and ex paras to police the piers,any crap and the instigator gets booted off the pier....

I agree with a lot of what you say. But I still say that a licence is the way forward coupled with stricter regulation and much stiffer enforcement. Those who fish without one get very stiff penalties and those who have one but transgress get it removed, simple really. unfortunately its the wishy washy polititians that would undermine any attempts to do this by pandering to other vested interests and being scared of offending anyone!! It works in the United States why cant it work in the U.K.

[BigLoada]

Personally I would have no problem with a licence, after all, trout and salmon fishermen dont have a problem with having one. But, would it make a lot of difference? Right now we have minimum landing sizes but when was the last time anyone here got their catch checked by anyone in authority? Could we realistically see the coastline being policed by bailliffs as the salmon rivers are? Maybe I am a miserable old pessimist but somehow I can't see that happening.

[codcatcher3000]

make the pier an alcohol exclusion zone...during the summer months... at least and get nesfc to set local byelaws about max bags and treatment of fish ....

[lambtonworm]

make the pier an alcohol exclusion zone...during the summer months... at least and get nesfc to set local byelaws about max bags and treatment of fish ....

Roker And Seaburn already is a Alcohol free zone and we all know how well that works,me and the wife saw a policeman on a mobile phone the other day,so enough said really....

[dizzydaz]

and lets just say if the licence was to be the way forward how on earth could they police it and enforce all the bylaws in reality could you ever see a baliff scrambling down a steep cliff face just to ask to see a licence i think most certainly not and besides there is that many people into sea fishing and that many places to fish from it would be almost impossible to police properly

[codandchips]

horray

best news iv heard all week