New Zziplex TRC Paired With The New Penn Fathom 15ld2 Then The Akios Orion 100ld

[hound hunter]

Do you think it matters stewart on such a powerfull rod which has a thickish tip compared to say a really fine tip.on really slim lightweight rods like a profile or syncrho I can agree,but on m427's n zeteques etc surely not....Just wondered what you thought m8,not wanting to debate it or owt lol,cheers hh

[Philthebag]

Do you think it matters stewart on such a powerfull rod which has a thickish tip compared to say a really fine tip.on really slim lightweight rods like a profile or syncrho I can agree,but on m427's n zeteques etc surely not....Just wondered what you thought m8,not wanting to debate it or owt lol,cheers hh

I agree about the tip ring i don't think that matters to much on heavy ground rod, but the unferwhippings plus the tip ring will effect the action. But underwhipping does make it look nice lol but its just another tool to use,

[zippie]

What diameter line were you using please mate to cast the boat reels ?

Thank you in advance

[beachbuddy]

What diameter line were you using please mate to cast the boat reels ?

Thank you in advance

30lb asso .50 tow rope you'll be lucky if there was 180yds on the lever drags.
Paul was still puttin a lead out a lang way,I would need a taxi to get that far.

[Philthebag]

Most top end reels are converted boat reels the trq the diawa hyperspeed to name a few, the akios will be louder as you have 30lb line on it, spool wont be balanced, personally don't see the point in lever drags from the shore especially as paul thinks they will suit rough ground/cliffs. 99%of cliff or rough ground anglers just put the drags on full.

[Stewart 1971]

Do you think it matters stewart on such a powerfull rod which has a thickish tip compared to say a really fine tip.on really slim lightweight rods like a profile or syncrho I can agree,but on m427's n zeteques etc surely not....Just wondered what you thought m8,not wanting to debate it or owt lol,cheers hh

Long time retired now but did a fair bit of field casting when I lived on the south coast. Lots of lads using M427su, Zeteque TXL, a few Dymic LT Bullets. All of them kept the build as light and minimal as possible - lightweight rings, butchers tape - in order to maintain the action and recovery of the rod.

That said at the end of the day we are talking about a fishing rod not a field rod and it is down to the individual how they want their rod to be built. My own thoughts would be if I'm spending a small fortune on a cutting edge design, lightweight carbon blank then I'd want as minimal a build as possible in order to keep the action as close to what the rod designer intended as possible. I'm sure others might disagree, but in my experience rods, rod actions and rod builds are all about feel and each individual has their own preference - light and minimal happens to be mine.

For big weights, heavy line and a Brighton cast the difference might be minimal, but strap on a 150g, .35mm line and pendulum cast and the difference in action will be noticible.

One final point, I'm not knocking Paul, his vids are generally very good, interesting and informative. But as you might have guessed I do think his rod builds are a bit OTT

[hound hunter]

Cheers for the reply stewart,just wanted to know your thoughts bud
I'm a fisherman myself not a casteralthough I have mates that are big into it.
I thought the old butchers tape was for experimenting with ring spacing,different rings or if the favoured minima's(very light weight)get bent or damaged it's just a case of get the tape out n tape a new one on
Sorry to hi jack the post,all the best hh

[safc]

Just my opinion but i dont see the point in converting all these boat reels into shore reels, that akios didnt look up to the job what so ever. Fathom seemed a lot better tbh

I'll stick with my 525 mags, what a reel