Inshore netters

[mark]

So am i understanding thsi right...

If i purchase a net from one of the many people selling them at our ports and go out n my boat and drop in 500 yards off shore, as long as i ahve it marked it would be legal with no other paper work unless i wished to sell the fish on??

Dont worry lads not planning on doing this before the messages start flooding in the fun is catching them not netting them.

yup.

you can also drop a longline and trawl as well. as long as the nets are within regulation lengths and mesh sizes, and the longline has no more than 25 hooks (Might be more not sure) you can do what you like

[loopy]

Please read these if you are talking about the Northumberland coast it dependant on the time of the year and area, look at fixed engines Byelaw 4
THE NORTHUMBERLAND SEA FISHERIES COMMITTEE - Byelaws

[ryanlee]

not sure about the 80 stone.the quota set for the netters for this year is 1ton yes 1ton.last year was set at 2ton.that equates to about 5-8 stone a day 7 days a week if the weather permits,and they cant roll it over, next year maybe cut to half a ton we can only hope.the quota is for white fish so doesnt matter what what they catch.

[drof46]

Don't Cut Them Loose!

I agree with much of what's been said re. 'Gill Nets'.

BUT, odious as they may be, don't be tempted to cut them free under the cover of darkness.

A free floating net, at the mercy of wind and tide can have a devastating on marine life for years.

cheors,

Drof

[Red5]

I wrote to the NSFC last year about a number of differnent issues White fish quotas are dealt with by the Marine and Fisheries Agency, as they act on behalf of the UK reagrding EU legislation.

I was told that there were a dozens of Bass being caught locally by local netters on a daily basis (won't say my source) and selling them on locally, I was told by NSFC that if the netters have the requisite fishing licence issued by DEFRA and the fish are above the MLS, then there is not a problem.

This is the page regarding licences.

Marine and Fisheries Agency - Grants and licences


And here is the page relating to quotas, yet I fail to see Bass included in the list!

Marine and Fisheries Agency - Fisheries Management

[loopy]

Cod quota for under 10m licensed boats 20 box a month about 50k a box that is about 2 ton a month. Quota is not transferable as far as I know for the under 10s. Pot bait is another story but you still have to have quota. Thank that wonderful Common fisheries policy just about most of our regulation is from Europe now and if you saw the 40 something Greek woman in charge of the CFU you would laugh or cry.
YouTube - Maria Damanaki at EU confirmation hearings

Les

[waldof]

Sorry to bring this back up again but thought I would post a reply from I have just recieved.
"your queries has been passed to me, there are set rules about using fixed engines (Gill nets) from the shore.
Only during the period of 26th Marc to 31st October, no fixed engine except for a T-net licence by the North sea fisheries commission can be fished in water less than 7m deep at all sates of the tide. with a minimum of 4m of water above the header line at all times. All nets have to be marked and or licensed, and any vessel used to set them correctly licensed to fish using the said method. These regulations will be subject to change when the new Marine Management Organisation takes over from the NFC in April, unfortunately, I think they will only become stricter.

I hope this is not to complicated for you to understand, if you have any other queries, please contact me and I'll be happy to answer what I can. If you have concerns over the conduct or use of fixed nets on the beach, I would be very interested to hear your concerns.

Regards,

Arthur
Arthur Cranson.
South East Northumberland Coastal Warden
Tel: 01670 797323 Mobile: 07932440838
Northumberland made the following annotations".

[Red5]

Sorry to bring this back up again but thought I would post a reply from I have just recieved.
"your queries has been passed to me, there are set rules about using fixed engines (Gill nets) from the shore.
Only during the period of 26th Marc to 31st October, no fixed engine except for a T-net licence by the North sea fisheries commission can be fished in water less than 7m deep at all sates of the tide. with a minimum of 4m of water above the header line at all times. All nets have to be marked and or licensed, and any vessel used to set them correctly licensed to fish using the said method. These regulations will be subject to change when the new Marine Management Organisation takes over from the NFC in April, unfortunately, I think they will only become stricter.

I hope this is not to complicated for you to understand, if you have any other queries, please contact me and I'll be happy to answer what I can. If you have concerns over the conduct or use of fixed nets on the beach, I would be very interested to hear your concerns.

Regards,

Arthur
Arthur Cranson.
South East Northumberland Coastal Warden
Tel: 01670 797323 Mobile: 07932440838
Northumberland made the following annotations".

Interesting to note that he states 'unfortunately', reagrding the rules becoming stricter

[phil185]

" These regulations will be subject to change when the new Marine Management Organisation takes over from the NFC in April, unfortunately, I think they will only become stricter. ".

I guess that will mean more work for him,



Phil

[guy]

fished sheilds pier yesterday on the end and could see the marker for the nets going along to marsden

[Bones]

Wild Bass For Sale

I've seen wild bass for sale in three shops this week - including Morrisons, so I guess they are getting some from somewhere. One of the local shop told me thet were landing them at North Shields. All were in the 1 and a half lb - 3lb range so not much chance for a long term future of good bass fishing around here.

Many of the good bass fisheries down south have been wiped out... guess we never learn

[codseeker]

ya get this topic every year soon as the fishing goes quiet the shore anglers point the finger at boats and netters they carnt be getting every fish swimming in the sea and must be thousands close in or its that time a year when they have stayed miles off feeding on easy feed well thats my opinion anyways

ya can only catch whats infront of ya and that isnt much this time of year

[mark]

does seem to pop up this time every year, come december though situation normal, well as normal as it can be given the state of things

its very possible that in a couple of years you'll be begging for the british boats to come back:

Originally posted in www.fishnewseu.com

SPANISH fishermen could end up in control of the North Sea under new rules being thrashed out in Brussels.

This is the warning from Scots Euro MP Struan Stevenson ahead of the imminent reform of the Common Fisheries Policy.

Mr Stevenson, senior vice president of the European Parliament Fisheries Committee, fears the reform will drive through amendments that will transfer traditional Scottish fishing rights to foreign ownership.

He believes that 139 proposed amendments to the CFP Green Paper to be voted through in a special plenary session in Brussels tomorrow (February 24) will open the door to a takeover by wealthy foreign fishing concerns.

One amendment specifically states that “access to fish stocks should no longer be based solely on the criterion of historical catches.”

Mr Stevenson said: “I believe that this is a potentially explosive alteration to the current rules which allocates fishing rights based on historical track records, providing evidence that generations of Scottish fishermen have fished in a particular area.

“If this rule is changed, Spanish fishermen could argue that they have equal access rights to our traditional fishing grounds in the North Sea and West of Scotland.”

Another amendment calls on the European Commission to look at the adoption of new fisheries management models including “the use of transferable fishing rights.”

Mr Stevenson said: “If a system of individual transferable quotas (ITQ’s) is introduced, we can expect the same situation to occur that we witnessed in Iceland where a handful of wealthy fishing companies quickly seized control of all of the available whitefish quotas, forcing many small fishing companies out of business.

“Once again I fear that the combination of new access rules, together with ITQ’s, will simply enable wealthy Spanish fishing concerns to buy up most of our Scottish whitefish quotas, leaving the Spanish fleet in control of the North Sea.

“The impact on our fishermen would be disastrous. But it is not only the fishermen who would lose out. Our ports and harbours would suffer as a consequence, particularly if the Spanish vessels decided to land their catch back in Galicia rather than in Peterhead or Fraserburgh, which is highly likely.

“While I am all for reforming the CFP, which has been a catastrophe for our fishing sector since its inception, I am determined to ensure that we don’t open the door to a bargain basement sale of Scotland’s fishing heritage.

“I will be putting down a series of amendments which seek to protect our industry and I will be looking to get the majority of MEPs to support me in the votes.”

[jason]

if that was true, when the conditions where right for bass fishing anglers would be getting quite a few, not just the odd one or two a season. And don't come back and say the netters got them all. Getting rid of inshore netters, etc I believe would only be a short term fix, maybe three to five years before catches started dropping off, the main problem lies well out to sea in breeding grounds and where tons of fish are being dumped being replaced by bigger fish caught later. Something has got to be done at the source of the problem, then we can start sorting out management of the fringes.

it is not just the breeding grounds that is the problem for a few years now i have seen while offshore the sand eel boats just sucking up all the bait fish they want. these are at the bottom of the food chain and are a life line for fish and birds alike.

[dazzer]

Sorry to bring this back up again but thought I would post a reply from I have just recieved.
no fixed engine except for a T-net licence by the North sea fisheries commission can be fished in water less than 7m deep at all sates of the tide.

Blyth Bay is in the main only 6m deep or at least that's what my sounder showed up.