pennel v paternosta with a big hook

[paulthespark]

just wondering what your opinions are lads on the difference between cod fishing with a pennel set up or a single hook paternoster rig, i normally use a 4.0 pennel rig for all my winter cod fishing and have had no problems with it. a couple of weeks ago i had a walk along the hartlepool prom when the easington open was on to see how the guys where getting on, [couldn't fish myself as I've had sciatica for the last two weeks and no way could i cast] anyway i got chatting to one of the lads who was fishing the comp and i noticed when he was baiting up that he was using a 8.0 single paternoster rig, the trace was about 4 foot long, he told me this set up was much better than a pennel rig because [1] you only catch cod on it [2]if you have a big lift the hook won't bend out or snap [3] you can bait up big [4]it,s easier to use bait elastic on it especially for baits like mussel,crab and razor and 5 if you where boat fishing this is the size of hook or bigger you would use when targeting cod or ling ,so why not shore fishing and i think he was right, what's your opinions lads. cheers paul

[Iva-Cod-on]

Personally I would go for the pennel rig everytime and this has payed off so many times when a fish hits the top of the bait esp when fishing lug tipped off with another bait ie crab, razor etc it allows you best of both worlds where single hook would miss the fish. I also point one hook one way and the other in the other direction meaning maximum hooking potential.

[Jimbob]

Personally I would go for the pennel rig everytime and this has payed off so many times when a fish hits the top of the bait esp when fishing lug tipped off with another bait ie crab, razor etc it allows you best of both worlds where single hook would miss the fish. I also point one hook one way and the other in the other direction meaning maximum hooking potential.

Totally agree. Never thought of reversing the hooks mind.

Coarse anglers know that smaller hooks actually give a better hold. I've scaled down to 2/0's and sharper hooks such as Kamasan B940 Aberdeens and I'm hooking more fish.

[codseeker]

not sure but ivan might mean one hook to the left direction and bottom hook right vise versa not sure he means top one upside down tho but i cud be wrong

[Iva-Cod-on]

not sure but ivan might mean one hook to the left direction and bottom hook right vise versa not sure he means top one upside down tho but i cud be wrong

Your correct Trevor that's exactly what I meant vice verser spot on

[jamiebrennan]

Hooks? Oops! I thought i wasnt catching out!

[sage]

my main rig is a pulley rig.... which i use variations on eg. hook snood length, rig length, rotton bottoms , impact shields, rock rigs with as few components as possible....all with either a single hook or a pennel of some sort....
i fish pennels on the beach .... but for most of my rock fishing i only fish a single hook often up to a 8/0
i have found that as long as the hook will bend or snap before my hook length snaps everthings fine..
i have never had a fish throw a hook when fishing a single large hook on the rocks.. although i have lost them thru my own lazyness in not changing the snood when its been chaffed a bit...
on some of my pennels i have started using circle hooks, which are supposed to aid hooking, but so far they havent been tried enough by me to comment on...

[shaun]

could somone tell me what lengh and strengh line is best for a snood on a pennel rig for beach and peir use, thanks

[willywetegg]

Shaun, use whatever you are comfortable with casting. Most people tend to use a shorter rig for the rocks and a longer one for clean ground. If your fishing a beach with a good sea running you would be better with a shorter rig too as it can get quite tangled. I use all different lengths but the longest would be for the clean beaches, maybe about 30 inches but have never measured them.

Jim.

[shaun]

thanks for the info jim, is 20lb line ok for the snoods for mediem seas or should i be using stronger? thanks

[willywetegg]

Sorry Shaun I didn't read your question properly mate. Even on a clean beach I wouldn't use anything less than thirty pound for my hook snood. I used to a long time ago but soon learned that it wasn't enough. You will find that the lighter lines have a tendency to tangle more too, or at least the line I used to use did.

Jim.

[shaun]

thanks thats what i was wondering, im going to get some 30lb line as my 20lb line gets tangled up alot and i thought it was to thin just checking

[codseeker]

yes 30lb fine but if fishing piers or rock marks etc at a hieght ya got ya shockleader rig body and hook snood same strenght what can fail on the lift maybe the hook isnt strong enough so if theres an easy access to get the fish up like stairs to walk em or beach i would go for that option rather than lose a good fish

when theres lunkers due about

[willywetegg]

Aye your right Coddy, I should have mentioned that mate, I was just talking about a clean beach. As Coddy says you want something the same as your shockleader if your fishing from a height. There is nothing to stop you using stronger ones from the beach either, it would save you making different types of rig. I used to do most of my fishing on Blyth beach so didn't really need anything more than thirty pound for that. If I was fishing the rocks or pier I had a different rig wallet for that, if you make them all the same you can keep them all together in the same wallet, save you carrying more.

Jim.

[HARRA]

hi their its down to your prefrence but i use pennel pully rigs and i use 80lb main body with 40lb hook length and like jim mentioned i make different length traces for different places and conditions.