Mickey davison

[Charlton]

i think that was the week before alan mate

mmmm

[waco]

whats a shock leader for ?

read post number 15 on this thread

[pondlife]

shock leader is a length of 50 lb -- 70 lb line 30--- 40 foot long to absorb the power of the of cast so it does not snap when casting which also needs to checked on regular basis for abrasions and week spots due to regular casting which SHOULD BE USED AT ALL TIMES IF MAIN LINE LES THAN 30LB

hope lad that got hit is ok ,a got hit once luckily it was on hand was not able to move fingers for bout an hour and sore for a long time

would you say that, unless you are pendulum casting and there is a chance that your lead and gear might go flying down the beach and damage somebody there really isnt any point in having a shockleader.

[d-a]

shocker

you would be suprised how many peaple dont use a shockleader i thonk if you dont take all the precautions and have a snap off and your sinker hits somebody you should be done for gbh or if the worst happens manslaughter

[pondlife]

you would be suprised how many peaple dont use a shockleader i thonk if you dont take all the precautions and have a snap off and your sinker hits somebody you should be done for gbh or if the worst happens manslaughter

I can see the point of a shock leader if your pendulum casting but if your only having an overhead thump then the worst that can happen is you have a crack off and it goes out to sea for a mile or ten and hits a trawler perhaps

[Davyred]

I can see the point of a shock leader if your pendulum casting but if your only having an overhead thump then the worst that can happen is you have a crack off and it goes out to sea for a mile or ten and hits a trawler perhaps

Sorry, but thats rubbish. As soon as the rod starts to take the strain, your line (which could have been nicked at anytime) can part at anytime from the horizontal to the vertical. I've seen sinkers fly straight up in the air and fall literally inches from the bloke casting out, and they don't just lob up in the air either. They go up at a fair lick, and come down even faster.

[codseeker]

leave wor pondy alarn man hes been out of fishing for 50 year and is only just started getting used to the new age angling ways

[waco]

shock leader

leave wor pondy alarn man hes been out of fishing for 50 year and is only just started getting used to the new age angling ways

not trying to get at any body mate ( BUT THE LAD ASKED WATS A SHOCKLEADER FOR, ) so a tried to explain best a can and sorry if not a been understood but mabye someone else can explain better than i can , i have seen wat damage a 5-6 oz can do to some one who has been hit

try throwing a lead against a brick wall hard as you can then multiply that at least six times then try to caculate the damage ?

Safety is paramountwhen fishing

[treeboa]

if you want to know what a lead wieght can do then have a read, and a crack offs going a lot faster

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...a%3DN%26um%3D1



and heres another tale of woe



A man fishing off Long Island is dead after a 3-ounce lead fishing weight attached to his pole struck him in the face and dug into his brain.

Relatives and a physician say Roosevelt resident Jaime (Hai-MEH) Chicas (CHEEK-ahs) died Tuesday from severe head trauma and herniation.

A neurologist at Nassau University Medical Center says the lead weight from Chicas' fishing pole hit with "so much force that it kept going" and lodged in the back of his head.

Relatives say the 21-year-old was fishing with his brother-in-law and cousin at the west end of Jones Beach Friday when the accident happened.

[clarky]

think about it

I was fishn on marsden beach with a mate he had a snap off when using his 7ht(15lb main and 80lb shock)
so he deciced to put a penn 535 on with new 35lb main line straight through, i wasnt taking much notice as he allways uses a shockleader.
His third or fourth cast snapped half way through an over head cast the weight went straight up and came belting down and landed feet from where i was standing i couldnt believe what had just happened and how close the weight had came to landing on me and the damage it could av done.
Apparently he's been told at some point there's no need to use shockleaders with line of that poundage.
obviously this is not the case as the slightest nick dramaticaly reduces the line strenght and this was new line.
allways use shockleaders what ever pound line or type of casting you do. wether your a beginer or an experienced angler as accidents happen.
The time it takes to tie an extra length of line on compared to the years of regret you will have wishing you had if you disable or kill someone

[kebab man]

well put

[john/r]

how many check there leader lead link rig body before they cast out again.

and be honest.

[john/r]

sorry put on wrong thread.

[pondlife]

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I think you' lads made a fair point about the lead going straight up in the air. Im almost sorry i asked now.
If youve got a shockleader on where does the lead go when your reel jams/stops or generally your cast doesn't go as expected.?.
I can certainly see the point of safety first. I always have a shockleader on me 525 and me daiwa 6hm before that (showing me age now) and will carry on to do so. Im just wondering if shockers are as safe as what people believe them to be.

many moons ago (mid 80's) i went down to watch the lads fishing the vaux open on roker pier. It must have been 3 deep for much of its length and during the day a chap was hit in the back of the head with a grappel lead (breakaway/spider). he looked like he'd been shot and couldnt stand up. the ambulance had difficulty getting along the pier to his aid and looked a sorry state by the time he was evacuated from the area.

[treeboa]

must admit, i have the line going across a finger as i reel in, that way you can feel a nick, but its not often i check above that

then again the ammount of stuck in and pull for a snap i get the leaders changed fairly often