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    There's a rumour around at the moment that commercial cod fishing will cease from next Thursday until the new year. Has anyone else heard anything? Apparently this will be announced shortly??
    To get away from dragons and catch monsters.

    Pig Hunter

  • #2
    Not heard anything, would be pleased but also canny suprised if it happens.

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    • #3
      Not heard anything but it would be because all the quota has been caught for the North Sea. This happened very early last year ( I believe it was early June).

      This doesn't necessarily mean you will see no one fishing for them as "Producer Organisations" have a seperate quota and can fish until this is filled.

      The MFA monitor landings and as they approach the limit they announce a closure date. The limit was raised by 30% this year from the figure in 2008 so it figures that the quota will last longer. The closure will last until jan 1st and the quota for next year will be decided in talks held in early December... expect to hear shouts for a quota increase from the commercials.
      Save our Sharks Member
      SACN NE Regional Co-Ordinator
      NSFC RSA representative

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      • #4
        Not heard owt, but I did find a couple of interesting other news items when I had hunt around for any info:
        Trawler fined over net size - Fishupdate.com

        Warm seas bigger threat to North Sea cod - Fishupdate.com

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        • #5
          Dave, apparently they have almost reached their quota and that is why the date had been set. Like I said rumour at the minute.
          To get away from dragons and catch monsters.

          Pig Hunter

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          • #6
            its the gill netting that needs to be restricted or stopped on the north east if they stopped that there probably be better sport for us shore anglers. there dos'nt seem to be any restrictions on them as have seen nets put out canny few times along the coast fairly close to the shields pier 5---600yds+ right up to marsden and been told even past there

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            • #7
              As Dave sez, they will be at their quota limit.....BUT!.......They will still trawl for other species, catching cod in the process....some may be dumped, some will find it's way onto the market under the guise of another species
              "And I looked, and behold'a pale horse; and his name that sat on him was death, and hell followed with hi, and power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword and with hunger, and with the beasts of the earth"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by matchman
                I understand your frustrations as a shore angler - but conserving cod stocks in the North Sea is not just to benefit shore anglers....there is a much bigger picture than that...
                Yes but often the shore angler is either not part of or a small part of the big picture.
                The commercial aspects are the ones that seem to be highlighted in most studies.
                Said studies also seem to ignore the local impact of a community where income,employment and knock on effects result from anglers.
                That aspect is as important as the boys out catching fish to make money.
                THE PSYCHIC BIKER

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by matchman
                  By-catch and discard is an absolute disgrace - and really should be made illegal IMHO...

                  Imagine, if you will, a farmer "trawled" a net right across miles of countryside, capturing everything in its path....and at the end of his "Trawl" he decided to dump everything apart from rabbits - so deer, badgers, foxes, in fact all other animals (apart from rabbits) were simply chucked back...dead...

                  It may sound extreme - but same principal I reckon....would the population of the UK, and politicians allow this to happen?

                  Somehow I think not....food for thought...
                  unseen by the majority of people so unless we get reports of thousands and thousands of dead fish washed up on beaches and the reasons for it, then the average joe public will apply unseen out of mind to it
                  Last edited by treeboa; 19-09-2009, 11:55 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lowrider View Post
                    Yes but often the shore angler is either not part of or a small part of the big picture.
                    The commercial aspects are the ones that seem to be highlighted in most studies.
                    Said studies also seem to ignore the local impact of a community where income,employment and knock on effects result from anglers.
                    That aspect is as important as the boys out catching fish to make money.
                    This is why its important for anglers to take part in angling surveys providing the government with the data that anglers are worth an awefull lot more than the commercial industry.

                    Unfortunately this is where natural suspicion comes and people dont take part in these studies. I have just forwarded a copy of the SSACN report on the value of angling to the Scottish economy to the NSFC and it has been entered into the "Epitome of Correspondence" and will be discussed at the next quartery meeting. Several of the councillors are already looking for ways that the SFC could help promote tourism and hopefully this kind of support can be used to get bylaws that favour anglers and their contribution to local economies.

                    Cheers
                    Dave
                    Save our Sharks Member
                    SACN NE Regional Co-Ordinator
                    NSFC RSA representative

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                    • #11
                      More than 150 of Europe's top sea anglers; eight hours of fishing off Scotland, and one solitary haddock - Scotland on Sunday
                      Perhaps I should send this one in Dave.

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                      • #12
                        The way it turns out, the Angling Truss is not intereted in anything the sea angler has to say. They are only interested in course or game angling. This has shown in how the Angling Truss is now falling apart. The only time it was ever interested in sea anglers was when it neded the money from the sea angling clubs to fund course/game projects.
                        ( No it is not a spelling mistake)
                        As I have grown older, I've learned that pleasing everyone is impossible,
                        but P*****g everyone off is a piece of cake.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by matchman
                          By-catch and discard is an absolute disgrace - and really should be made illegal IMHO...

                          Imagine, if you will, a farmer "trawled" a net right across miles of countryside, capturing everything in its path....and at the end of his "Trawl" he decided to dump everything apart from rabbits - so deer, badgers, foxes, in fact all other animals (apart from rabbits) were simply chucked back...dead...

                          It may sound extreme - but same principal I reckon....would the population of the UK, and politicians allow this to happen?

                          Somehow I think not....food for thought...
                          well wrote ;D

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                          • #14
                            there should be a season or a set time period in which trawlers can only fish.

                            give the fish a chance to reproduce and keep stock levels up.

                            i dont give a toss if it means we have a better chance of fish or not.
                            its nice to catch fish, but i just enjoy being out of the house doing somthing.

                            if trawlers continue to chuck dead fish over the side and bleed the sea dry of cod etc, we wont have enough in the future to allow them to increase in numbers.

                            thats my take on it anyway.

                            i hope this is going a head, and continues to happen in the future ;D

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