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    Well the topic says it all I have encountered situations before when fishing for cod especialy after a real big sea the cod will only take small baitings anyone else encounted this or is it just me.

    Many a time I have had to put smaller hook tracers on and smaller baitings to hook into the fish this tends to happen to me the next few months.
    did you know panel pins comes in diff sizes ?

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    Never had that issue John to be honest. I've always found that a bigger bait tempts better fish. Small ones will take it too but I've had very few undersized fish so far this season and have used fairly big baits at all times. In the past I've often fished smaller baits and never caught as many of the bigger fish. Size 3/0 hooks with a couple of worms and 3-4 mussels or a crab bait. Just thinknit also puts a much bigger scent trail into the water aswell. Give them a decent gob full!
    "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


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    • #3
      Big hook big bait = big fish

      Small bait small hook = lost fish 😄

      Not all the time granted.

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      • #4
        I've been told after a massive sea that smaller baits can be better because the fish are full but greedy. It's like us going to a restaurant and eating your 3 courses. If you were offered the meal again you'd knock it back cos you are full but you would happily pic at a bowl of nuts at the bar.
        All the gear, no idea.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Nooo Fish View Post
          I've been told after a massive sea that smaller baits can be better because the fish are full but greedy. It's like us going to a restaurant and eating your 3 courses. If you were offered the meal again you'd knock it back cos you are full but you would happily pic at a bowl of nuts at the bar.
          Always struggled unless using big baits mate... Even after a decent sea. Noticed no difference at all. With so much bait in the water small baits scent trails will get 'lost' and not easily picked up by the fish.
          "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


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          • #6
            I Believe fish are greedy, they will eat and eat if the food is there, I gutted one a couple of weeks ago that had 3 whiting and 2 full hard back crabs in its belly. If you cast out a couple of worms and a fish is passing it's going to take it the advantage of putting a big bait on is you get more scent and it will survive in the water longer. A couple of lug worm tipped off with a bit cart and a single muscle has worked well for me this year.
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            • #7
              I normally fish with a pennel, 4/0 or 3/0 as main hook and 2/0 further up, never had a fish on the smaller hook. Even a small cod has got a big gob if you offer the right bait.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sand Eel View Post
                I normally fish with a pennel, 4/0 or 3/0 as main hook and 2/0 further up, never had a fish on the smaller hook. Even a small cod has got a big gob if you offer the right bait.
                I use 6/0 hooks and had a rockling take them.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by phill_itofish View Post
                  I Believe fish are greedy, they will eat and eat if the food is there, I gutted one a couple of weeks ago that had 3 whiting and 2 full hard back crabs in its belly. If you cast out a couple of worms and a fish is passing it's going to take it the advantage of putting a big bait on is you get more scent and it will survive in the water longer. A couple of lug worm tipped off with a bit cart and a single muscle has worked well for me this year.
                  agreed.
                  "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


                  PB. Ling - 12lb 6oz. Cod - 11lb 6oz, Coley - 3lb 6oz, Pollock - 4lb 1oz, Flounder - 1lb 11oz, Plaice - 1lb 10oz, Whiting 1lb 9oz.

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                  • #10
                    Big baits for pig's
                    I think in coloured water a bigger bait gives off more scent for the fish to home in on...
                    Dwn my way a lot of the lads use 1/0's when cod fishing then moan when they loose e'm due to the hook opening outcan't understand them really

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                    • #11
                      find out what they want! no good chucking donkey chokers out if there feeding on bits like worms..
                      cod will eat anything but not all the time, there's times quite often when they're tuned in to a certain food source and won't look at anything else..
                      i've witnessed it loads of times when i've been stood around others with quality bait in my bucket but didn't have the bait they wanted at the time, and went home with an empty fish bag, but the shoes been on the other foot a few times too. one time in particular on whitley getting loads of riving bites, so tried leaving fresh crab out of my cocktails and started getting hook ups cos they only wanted blow lug and that type of thing has happened more than once.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by D.D. View Post
                        find out what they want! no good chucking donkey chokers out if there feeding on bits like worms..
                        cod will eat anything but not all the time, there's times quite often when they're tuned in to a certain food source and won't look at anything else..
                        i've witnessed it loads of times when i've been stood around others with quality bait in my bucket but didn't have the bait they wanted at the time, and went home with an empty fish bag, but the shoes been on the other foot a few times too. one time in particular on whitley getting loads of riving bites, so tried leaving fresh crab out of my cocktails and started getting hook ups cos they only wanted blow lug and that type of thing has happened more than once.
                        Bagged 5 sized codling last week using blow lug. Didn't see another fish caught from another 6-8 lads fishing. I know what you mean about the bait but I was still chucking out 4-5 lug each hook. Still a pretty decent sized bait!
                        "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


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                        PB 2lb 9oz.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Juliogeordio View Post
                          Bagged 5 sized codling last week using blow lug. Didn't see another fish caught from another 6-8 lads fishing. I know what you mean about the bait but I was still chucking out 4-5 lug each hook. Still a pretty decent sized bait!
                          4 or 5 lug a decent bait? Give over lol this is my average bait on a tidal mark so not just plopping 30 yards

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                          • #14
                            But if I had to pick 2 baits to fish with all year it would be blacks and whites. What I have found the seas been away for a while at the fish are full they eat the stinky rotten baits like your razor clam and blacks to cleanse them selves.

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                            • #15
                              Lol, see some lads fishing single worms Phil.... My handful of lug is a decent size compared to that! Might also have something to do with the fact your 7'ft tall that everything looks smaller to you lol
                              "In order to becomes old and wise, first you must be young and stupid."


                              PB. Ling - 12lb 6oz. Cod - 11lb 6oz, Coley - 3lb 6oz, Pollock - 4lb 1oz, Flounder - 1lb 11oz, Plaice - 1lb 10oz, Whiting 1lb 9oz.

                              North east bass fishing addict.
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