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  • #46
    that's why they dare not for the life of them ,give us the british public a free vote[referendum] on whether to stay in the e.u or leave it. they know they will lose, so much for democracy from a supposed democratic goverment.hypocrits the lot of them.

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    • #47
      Be out soon then we have the choice of 2 other lots lol ow the joy
      ................__................................ .............................
      ____[ ~ \_____
      [__On-A-Roll__/
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      P.B
      SKATE 204lb
      COD 51lb
      LING 32lb
      TOPE 40lb
      CONGER 25lb
      HADDOCK 10lb
      HALIBUT 37lb
      COALIE 16lb
      BLUE SHARK 55lb

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      • #48
        And now the poor Irish are being hounded by them because they wouldn't ratify their treatys. When will they realise that all Europeans are happy being their own country, not some vast Superstate
        "And I looked, and behold'a pale horse; and his name that sat on him was death, and hell followed with hi, and power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword and with hunger, and with the beasts of the earth"

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        • #49
          worst thing is someone else had the plan for a "superstate" but did it a different way..... and we all know who that was..... hes the spit of charlie chaplin
          Species: Cod, Bass, Coalie, Flounder, Dab, Rockling, Mackerel, Plaice, Pollock, Ballen Wrasse, L/S Scorpion, Common Blenny, Weaver (unfortunately), Whiting, Common Eel, Trout, Pike... think that's it

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          • #50
            Originally posted by SnaggedUpLad View Post
            worst thing is someone else had the plan for a "superstate" but did it a different way..... and we all know who that was..... hes the spit of charlie chaplin
            I'll second that as in the words of mr Clarkson " they have too much power as demonstrated in their foreign holiday of 1939"

            Anywany back on topic i signed the petition weeks ago and have just sent this.

            After approximately 6 years away from sea angling from the shore, bringing up a family, I now find my chosen pastime to potentially come to an end because of rsa catches to be included with the commercial quota. The way I see it is the most sought after species, cod in particular, will have had it's quota met just as the main season is about to start, putting off the majority of sea anglers going out enjoying their sport. Obviously the knock on effect will be reduced tackle sales, resulting in less manufacturing and so on, thereby no doubt resulting in thousands of more job losses and closure of many well established businesses.

            So surely the best way to conserve fish stocks and save jobs, is not to threaten recreatonal sea anglers with what little we catch (of which many get put back alive anyway) in comparison with what the commercial fleet discard, stop them fishing when quotas are met and impose total bans at spawning seasons, surely taking actions like these can only be for the better in the long run.

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            • #51
              said i a few times before and i will say it again



              come back guy falwkes - all is forgiven

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              • #52
                Had a reply to my email, quite a bit of fancy language as is the norm from politicians!

                Dear Gary,

                RE: Community control system for ensuring compliance with the rules of the Common Fisheries Policy and recreational angling

                Thank you for your letter highlighting your concerns that Article 47 of the control regulation may bring recreational anglers within the scope of the CFP and its quota regime. As the Labour spokesperson on the Fisheries Committee, please accept this response on behalf of myself and my Labour colleague, David Martin MEP.

                Within the European Parliament discussion of the control system regulation is at very early stages. The rapporteur is Raül Romeva I Rueda (Verts/ALE) and the first discussion of the issue will take place on 21 January. The timetable for the report has not yet been finalised. The final position of the European Parliamentary Labour Party and the Socialist Group will be decided at a later stage but in the meantime please rest assured that I as EPLP fisheries spokesperson, will take the opportunity in committee to query the Commission on the scope of Article 47, what kind of anglers it applies to, and the practicalities of this proposal.

                Yours sincerely,

                Catherine Stihler MEP

                Labour MEP for Scotland
                Drowning worms since 2007.

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                • #53
                  i got that one lol did they give you a free lab pen
                  Species: Cod, Bass, Coalie, Flounder, Dab, Rockling, Mackerel, Plaice, Pollock, Ballen Wrasse, L/S Scorpion, Common Blenny, Weaver (unfortunately), Whiting, Common Eel, Trout, Pike... think that's it

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                  • #54
                    got that one as well
                    Alan

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                    • #55
                      noticed that is doesn't say anywhere that the article will be contested or opposed........its just filled with be reassured that i'll have a mention.... cocks
                      Species: Cod, Bass, Coalie, Flounder, Dab, Rockling, Mackerel, Plaice, Pollock, Ballen Wrasse, L/S Scorpion, Common Blenny, Weaver (unfortunately), Whiting, Common Eel, Trout, Pike... think that's it

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                      • #56
                        there's little point in coming on here and going **** this and **** that as it'll achieve nothing

                        the article will not be contested or opposed as it's only a proposal at this stage - what'll poss' happen is that they'll realise certain parts of the proposal are an admin hassle; be that through the internet campaign or they may even use their own common dog...and prob' ' shufty that element to one side for the time being

                        ...it'll come back though
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                        • #57
                          ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ.

                          Thought for the day:
                          Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but bring a smile to your face when thrown down the stairs

                          Converting an MFV Fifie trawler type thing.

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                          • #58
                            good for them...won't make me vote for them though
                            Ooh a new vid!

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                            • #59
                              I also recieved the same e/mail from the same person although it went to quite a few,and hopefully the powers that be will get the message on wednesday. we will have to keep at them on this one .

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                              • #60
                                mep reply

                                got a personal email from martin callanan, my local tory mep, and he included a copy of a soon to be released press release, and asked me if i would talk to the media, about it....too daunting for me...but i will happily forward any names pm 'ed to me

                                Tory MEP supports north-east anglers up in arms over EU plan to monitor rod-and-line catches
                                Martin Callanan says ‘barmy idea’ is an attempt to hide abject failure of EU’s Common Fisheries Policy
                                NEWCASTLE, 19 January 2009 – Local Conservative MEP Martin Callanan is hooked to the cause of local sea anglers after being flooded with angry letters over an EU proposal to restrict and monitor people fishing with rod and line along the region’s coast.
                                The European Commission has proposed bringing recreational fishing under the direct control of the EU’s Common Fisheries Policy (CFP).
                                The plan would require millions of recreational sea anglers throughout the EU to apply for special licences.
                                Anglers would have to log and register their catches if they catch certain species.
                                Member states would have to allocate a quota for recreational anglers and this would be deducted from their national quota as set out under the CFP.
                                Anglers would also be banned from selling anything they catch.
                                Mr Callanan believes the plan is absurdly bureaucratic, unenforceable and a further dent in the rights of ordinary people to go about their daily lives.
                                He also believes that the EU proposal would be damaging to the local economy and to tourism.
                                Mr Callanan believes the plan is starts from the premise that recreational anglers are a nuisance rather than stewards of the marine environment.
                                It also fails to take into account the increasing practice of catch-and-release for many species by north-east anglers.
                                The MEP has received many letters on this subject given that sea angling is an immensely popular sport in the north-east.
                                From the wind-swept beaches of Northumberland to Seaham pier and down to the Tees estuary, many thousands of people – many of them youngsters – cast a line from the shore every week.
                                Recreational boat fishing is also popular in the region, with many anglers launching small boats in ports like Amble, Blyth, North Shields and Hartlepool.
                                Mr Callanan added that the EU picking on a soft target like rod-and-line anglers represented a way of diverting attention from the disastrous CFP.
                                He said that the Common Fisheries Policy had been terrible for fish stocks, jobs in the industry and the marine environment, and said it was not fair to bring anglers within the scope of the CFP.
                                The European Commission’s proposal is being discussed this week in the European Parliament’s fisheries committee.
                                However, it is the Council of the European Union – which groups together the governments of the EU member states, including Britain – which will decide on the matter, independently of what MEPs say.
                                Mr Callanan said:
                                “I’m not surprised anglers in the region are so angry about this because it’s unfair and absurd.
                                “Sea angling is immensely popular along our beautiful coastline and is important for the local economy.
                                “This barmy idea is never going to work and it will create mountains of bureaucracy at further cost to taxpayers.
                                “I don’t see why anglers should be made the scapegoats for the EU’s abject failure to manage our fisheries.
                                “The European Commission is picking on a soft target because it wants to divert attention from its disastrous handling of the CFP.
                                “Angling is a pleasant pastime and one in which many children and teenagers participate.
                                “It’s much better that they have something constructive to do.
                                “To me, this proposal amounts to the EU grabbing yet more control over our lives.
                                “This proposal basically assumes that anglers are plundering the seas every time they wet a line.
                                “It takes no account of the fact that conservation, including catch-and-release, is more prevalent among anglers now than it’s ever been.
                                “It’s a daft idea that will have no meaningful effect on conservation but will certainly make the EU even more unpopular in the north-east than it already is.”
                                keep it swinging

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