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    copied and pasted from the bbc website. just thought if aat one time someone was lucky / unlucky enough to be in the same situation.

    Police inquiry over sturgeon sale

    A fisherman who caught a 10ft sturgeon off the Welsh coast is being
    investigated by police.

    The fish - the source of caviar - was caught in Swansea Bay by Robert
    Davies, from Llanelli and sold at auction for £650 in Plymouth on Thursday.

    Mr Davies said he had got the necessary permission from the Queen but
    wildlife officers say he has broken the law.

    As they continue to investigate the allegations, officers have impounded
    the catch.

    It is not illegal to catch or keep a sturgeon, providing it is offered
    to the Queen first and officers said if it had been given away for free
    or kept by the fisherman, no offence would have been committed.


    The sturgeon is rarely seen in UK waters and is classified as a \"royal\"
    fish - a status granted by King Edward II.

    The law decreed that every sturgeon which was caught belonged to the
    Treasury and had to be offered to the monarch.

    This means that the Queen has to be consulted before anything is done
    with one.

    Mr Davies said he had informed Buckingham Palace about his lucky catch,
    and was duly given permission to keep it.

    But Pc Jon Needham, a wildlife crime officer with Devon and Cornwall
    Police, said it was an offence to sell or offer for sale sturgeon, a
    protected species.

    The sturgeon weighed almost 264lb

    Anyone found guilty of selling one fish could face up to six months in
    prison or a fine of up to £5,000.

    \"There is a great long string of potential offences,\" the officer said.

    \"We need to carefully look at the circumstances.\"

    Mr Davies\' father and fellow fisherman, Kevin Davies, 44, said: \"We have
    really been left in the lurch. I telephoned the police personally, and
    they left me a bit in the dark.

    \'Won the jackpot\'

    \"It was a fantastic catch, and you won\'t see anything like it for many
    years. It\'s a shame it landed up this way.\"

    Nick Henry of Moby Nicks fish sellers, in Plymouth, said: \"It\'s come all
    the way from Wales from the fishing boat of a small family business.

    \"They must have thought that they won the jackpot. But they\'ll end up
    with nothing, I\'ll end up with nothing.

    \"But it is interesting.\"

    David Pessell of the Plymouth Trawler Agents said: \"We\'re all ending up
    looking rather foolish, to be honest.

    \"The Department of the Environment, the South Wales Sea Fisheries
    Committee, the Master of the Royal Household, Plymouth Trawler Agents,
    none of them knew that there was legislation preventing the sale of this
    endangered species.\"

    Before the controversy blew up, Mr Davies, from Llanelli, who has been a
    fisherman for three years, said: \"It was a normal day - apart from the
    fact I caught a valuable fish.

    \"To be honest, I didn\'t know what it was.

    Trawler agent Dave Pessell said he had not known of the legislation

    \"I contacted fisheries and the coastguard and they came down and took
    some pictures and told me it was a sturgeon.\"

    The sturgeon is usually found in the Caspian Sea, which is bordered by
    Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan.

    Its eggs are used to make the delicacy caviar, which can cost several
    hundred pounds for a small pot.

    The fish is rarely caught in the UK with as few as six believed to be
    landed each year.

    A spokeswoman for Swansea Coastguard said that sturgeon, in common with
    other so-called royal fish like porpoise and dolphin, must be offered to
    the Queen if caught in the UK.

    She added: \"The fisherman caught it at around 1430 BST on Wednesday and
    got in touch with the Receiver of Wrecks, via the coastguard.

    \"A fax was sent to Buckingham Palace and fairly quickly a return fax
    came saying the fisherman was free to dispose of it as he wished.

    \"I believe that most of the time, fishermen are allowed to keep what
    they catch, although this has never happened in the eight years I\'ve
    worked here.\"
    Paula
    www.tugmistress.co.uk
    webcam, weather station and interesting cr*p

  • #2
    Nice to know that our boys in blue are on the ball Paula !. Terrorists, murderers, paedophiles, muggers, car thieves can all rest in the knowledge that the authorities are more concerned in someone catching the queens fish !. What a load of crap though when one thinks about it. No wonder more and more people are retiring abroad when you read of things like this happening.

    gag1

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    • #3
      Don\'t know about any of you but I would have found it difficult to keep knowing just how rare they are. I would feel duty bound to return it.

      As for asking the Queen if I can keep it, when she asks me if she can live on my taxes I will ask here if I can keep a fish!

      Anybody else feel the same or is it just me?

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      • #4
        agree with you totally mike the whole royal family want to get off their arses and work for a living

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        • #5
          Hope they didn\'t intend to have Swan as the main course......lol

          For what it\'s worth, I agree with you, Mike.............BUT........

          I\'m gonna nip this in the bud and say - NO MORE ANTI / PRO ROYAL COMMENTS ON HERE, PLEASE.

          Any views on THAT can be expressed in the CHAT forum........BUT......If it starts to go too far there, I\'ll get me moderatin\' pen oot

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          • #6
            read the story in the paper this morning. Apparently the fish was brought up in a trawl net, so would probably have been as good as dead when it was boated. It were huge in the picture, a good 8foot long at least

            I have an old fishing book which talks about catching sturgeon in the severn estuary, quite common once apparently. there\'s a river in suffolk ( ithink it was suffolk anyway) that apaprently has loads off little uns (under 50lb!) Can\'t remember which web site I read this on, but someone who had bought them as aquarium fish for a garden pond realeased them into the wild when they got too big some years back and they are apparently thriving and breeding


            ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ.

            Thought for the day:
            Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but bring a smile to your face when thrown down the stairs

            Converting an MFV Fifie trawler type thing.

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            • #7
              I would feel duty bound to return it.
              I am not sure what I would do if I caught one. I doubt if anyone would believe me if I just posted it in the NESA \'catch reports\'
              e.g., Whitley Bay (Wednesday) 1 sturgeon (264 lb) caught on lug tipped with a large sheeps head

              Pat. Pending

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              • #8
                ROTFL
                We\'d believe you, m8 - errrmmm honest...lol

                Might start a run on the RoyD sheeps head lures, though

                [Edited on 5/6/2004 by TC]

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                • #9
                  SORTED

                  I know the rest of you won\'t have a clue what I mean by that, but somebody does......

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                  • #10
                    Cheers!

                    Oops just grassed meself up! (As my eldest would say \" It wasn\'t ****ing me ya ****\" Bless him.

                    [Edited on 5/6/2004 by Ell]

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                    • #11
                      NOWTSABOTHER

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                      • #12
                        caught on lug tipped with a large sheeps head
                        thats one helluva bait clip you be needing (not to mention several rolls of bait elastic
                        ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ.

                        Thought for the day:
                        Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything but bring a smile to your face when thrown down the stairs

                        Converting an MFV Fifie trawler type thing.

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