Have sea angler run out of their own ideas?

[MarcLeSeur]

well i read both
i have got every total sea fishing since day 1
and i have got all sea anglers dating back to the 80's

yes they do repeat themselves
but at the same time
you have got to think that
if i read somthing say 2 years ago
someone might be just coming into sea fishing and he wont have read it
so if they print it again,they will get the chance to read about it

must be a coincidence about the same venue's being in the magazines
but why not read both views
mind you i saw a nice rig in the sea angler this month what im going to copy

well said sless: jesus, what do the above expect, that sea angler etc keeps subliminally writing fresh articles for those particular peopel?
of course they write the same pieces, discuss the same venues. there are more readers than just you, you know.

[phill_itofish]

You could be right! I sent them this email asking if they would be interisted in doing an artical featuring a couple of intermediate angelers (ie me and my mate) following of progress over our first winter of fishing and detailing the lessons we learn, my justerfication being i belive people get frustrated when reading about people who catch fish all the time and would take interest in people who (like them selfs) sometimes blank.

The nice editor replied saying "Great minds think alike", aparently they already have the wheels in motion for a very similar artical!!!

[The Great Wallsendo]

agree with Sless I've read most Sea Anglers for the last 20 years...there's only so many times you can put a spin on how to catch Cod...but when I started back last summer, the first mag I went to was the Dangler...which is exactly what loads of novices do each month

One thing I've noticed is the increase of north eastern focused reports which can only be a good thing...many many times in the past there have been re-runs of Bass sessions on the south coast...

As to the ad's - how else does a mag fund itself? I personally trawl through them as well to see what's out there and how much they cost...

Haven't read TSF for a while....my newsagent doesn't stock it, nor does my local supermarket for some reason

[davem2005]

It must be hard for editors to come up with something new every month whilst also keeping articles seasonal. Add to that the fact that the feature must be filmed at least two months in advance and it becomes inevitable that when the cod arrive in winter both magazines are going to do a similar article, same goes for when the tope arrive.

The magazines spend a lot of time and money trying to put together features and they dont always work out as I know from experience when I spent a day out with a journalist and photographer from sea angler, article written but we failed to get any fish for the photo's so the whole thing goes in the bin.

I do have a photo of how the photographer spent his day ...but it wouldn't be fair to post it here

or would it?

I did make a suggestion for a feature on something that had never been done that day but never heard anymore about it.

I doubt that two publications follow one another for the simple reason that by the time a magazine hits the shops the next issue is well on its way to a finished article.

Cheers
dave

[phill_itofish]

It must be hard for editors to come up with something new every month whilst also keeping articles seasonal. Add to that the fact that the feature must be filmed at least two months in advance and it becomes inevitable that when the cod arrive in winter both magazines are going to do a similar article, same goes for when the tope arrive.

The magazines spend a lot of time and money trying to put together features and they dont always work out as I know from experience when I spent a day out with a journalist and photographer from sea angler, article written but we failed to get any fish for the photo's so the whole thing goes in the bin.

I do have a photo of how the photographer spent his day ...but it wouldn't be fair to post it here

or would it?

I did make a suggestion for a feature on something that had never been done that day but never heard anymore about it.

I doubt that two publications follow one another for the simple reason that by the time a magazine hits the shops the next issue is well on its way to a finished article.

Cheers
dave

They should have printed it anyway! going out and blanking is somthing we can all relate to

[mick dunn]

I suppose buying Sea Angler every month is a bit like buying mens porn mag.You can only read so much before you get fed up.

I bought the Sea Angler cos i got a free gift. Sunglasses which did not fit.

I also like looking at all the new gear. Bought my Suveron rod and Supermag extra as a result of reports in the mag.

Will keep buying the mag as it does brighten my day up. (not Mayfair or Playboy).

[phill_itofish]

I suppose buying Sea Angler every month is a bit like buying mens porn mag.You can only read so much before you get fed up.

and like mens porn mags there is better stuff online lol

[Lowrider]

Only prob is i hate reading stuff on line,much prefer hard copy.
But i read both mags,subscribe to Sea Angler simply since i got a good deal for three months,£3 for 3 issues.
I enjoy both and despite what many people say i do pick up some sort of tip or idea each time i read one.
I will often put one aside with a rig i want to copy from or a casting article i want to re-read and maybe try when i have more time.
I suppose like anything,no one forces anyone to buy them.
So don't if you don't want to.

[YoursTruly]

I think your quote is way off the mark there.....would we lose every subscribing sea angler if we just concentrated on tournament casting? - please think before posting.

Terry, this started out as a great thread, nice to hear our readers views - we do take notice...
If you can think of any ideas for features, please feel free to email me your ideas at paul.fenech@emap.com

I can think of many ideas and no doubt many others may have some better ideas, would sea angler be prepared to pay for any of the readers ideas that they used?

[mark]

one solution is not to buy it I guess!

yup it gets repetitive after a couple of years, so does total sea fishing, so do the fly fishing mags so do most 'seasonal hobby' related publications

I don't bother with any anymore, occasionally have a flick trough in tesco's

60% is going to be repeated somewhere, 35% is going to be pictures of what people have caught off the south coast (like I'm that interested), and 5% will invariably be how to tie a shockleader! added to that is the usual smattering of things that I have zero interest - tournament casting being one. (its a fishing magazine not a casting magazine!!)

like it or loathe it the formula must work though as its one used by most of the angling press and they are all still in business, and people keep buying it/subscribing.

sea angler does need one thing IMHO though. It needs to employ a designer, and one who knows what typography means rather than someone who got to page 1 of 'how to to desktop publishing' and gave up. Thats me with my work head on though. The layout now looks very very dated, you'd be amazed the difference in freshening the look of something can have, even if its the same old stuff that going in there

[YoursTruly]

Yes, they would pay me and the photographer...

Why should you expect others to pass on their ideas for free which would not only make you look good for coming up with something new or good and get paid for it.

If you were to think of some new item of fishing tackle and took the idea along to a manufacturer would you give them the idea for free? well of course you would.

[gazzawill]

terry sorry to say it but you come across as a right victor meldrew lmao
I DONT BELIVE IT
stop moaning and go fishing
if you dont like the fishing mags lay out ect dont buy them
read them for free in the supermarkets
get ya self out fish ' dont read mags then moan

[sless]

hahahaahhahaa

[YoursTruly]

terry sorry to say it but you come across as a right victor meldrew lmao
I DONT BELIVE IT
stop moaning and go fishing
if you dont like the fishing mags lay out ect dont buy them
read them for free in the supermarkets
get ya self out fish ' dont read mags then moan

Gazza, read the post properly then reply!

I wasnt moaning at all, just asking a question, as for getting out fishing then i suggest you need to get your facts right mate as i bet there is a very small percentage of anglers on this board who fish more than me and i bet your not one of them.

[Jaguar]

nothing wrong with these mags some people just too tight to buy them