Anyone ditched the pulley rig?

[Deans]

just wondering if any of the rough ground anglers have made the plunge and why?
an interesting one this

[topbanana]

This winter is the first season I've used pulleys more exlcusively and did'nt notice any difference to my catch rate. I know some people really don't like them though. I like them personally.

[g-force]

Never use the things, I hate them! When I did (briefly) try them I found they consistently failed to hook up some rod-wrenching bites. My other gripe is that if using a rotten-bottom length of weak line, this had a tendency to wrap itself around the rig body on the retrieve. So the sinker was then fouled on the rig body and if pulled into a snag with a fish on it was in front of the fish, making loss of the fish more likely. I prefer to have the sinker trailing behind, so that if it does find a snag it's more easily broken free - and if it's more or less at your feet (as sometimes happens) the fish is easier to get to, rather than being several feet behind (perhaps over a ledge) where you can't get at it.

For these reasons my go-to rough ground rig is about 3ft of 50lb Maxima tied to the same swivel as about 4ft of 80lb rig-body, which has a rotten-bottom length of weak line (usually 15lb Amnesia which can be snapped easily, although I'll sometimes use stronger if I think I'm throwing away a few too many sinkers!). Far rather lose a few weights though than fish, especially as I fish a lot of comps. If I need a clip-down rig then it's much the same except I'll make rig / snood length the same and attach an Imp, with a rotter & weak-line set up as before.

Gary

[wavy davy]

I always use clipped pennel pulley with a rotton bottom and never had any problems, total length is approx 5 foot and change it after each session.
What rig do you use ?

[Pighunter]

found pulleys work on more than rough ground there simple to make do the job you can clip them down and still lash it with a simple rotton bottom but if everyone liked the same it would be boring. The thing I like most is there fast to make and you can get one nice neat compact long bait on the pulley pennel

[Juliogeordio]

I always use clipped pennel pulley with a rotton bottom and never had any problems, total length is approx 5 foot and change it after each session.
What rig do you use ?

Same for me Davy... I know a few lads who have issues with them but it is usually down to them being poorly made. Never had a single isssue at all lol.

[Deans]

[QUOTE=g-force;688173]Never use the things, I hate them! When I did (briefly) try them I found they consistently failed to hook up some rod-wrenching bites. My other gripe is that if using a rotten-bottom length of weak line, this had a tendency to wrap itself around the rig body on the retrieve. So the sinker was then fouled on the rig body and if pulled into a snag with a fish on it was in front of the fish, making loss of the fish more likely. I prefer to have the sinker trailing behind, so that if it does find a snag it's more easily broken free - and if it's more or less at your feet (as sometimes happens) the fish is easier to get to, rather than being several feet behind (perhaps over a ledge) where you can't get at it.

For these reasons my go-to rough ground rig is about 3ft of 50lb Maxima tied to the same swivel as about 4ft of 80lb rig-body, which has a rotten-bottom length of weak line (usually 15lb Amnesia which can be snapped easily, although I'll sometimes use stronger if I think I'm throwing away a few too many sinkers!). Far rather lose a few weights though than fish, especially as I fish a lot of comps. If I need a clip-down rig then it's much the same except I'll make rig / snood length the same and attach an Imp, with a rotter & weak-line set up as before.

tried same set up,,... prefer... shorter hooklength than the main body gaz.
fish on same actual level as the sinker then innit.

[Iva-Cod-on]

Fixed pat is the way forward like clipped or not tried pulley rigs n don't rate then went back to basics!! Oh and anybody noticed the rigs mr stringer uses now that's not to be argued with IMO

[g-force]

Fixed pat is the way forward like clipped or not tried pulley rigs n don't rate then went back to basics!! Oh and anybody noticed the rigs mr stringer uses now that's not to be argued with IMO

Yep, they're pretty much what I've used since starting in the late 70's - if it ain't broke etc....

Gary

[Iva-Cod-on]

Yep, they're pretty much what I've used since starting in the late 70's - if it ain't broke etc....

Gary

Bang on mate

[Deans]

apparent no matter what rig people use they become convinced it will do.

interesting why some of the northern lads use a simple rig with a shorter main body and longer snood.

most lads ive spoke to who have ditched the pulley because they are poor on retrieve, I mean the lead hits a snag before the fish, resulting in lost fish.

the alternative rig mentioned with a long snood and short main body means fish below the sinker on retrieve doesn't it? resulting in a similar action to the pulley on retrieve?

better bite registration and initial hook up that's all eh?

retrieve same old action to the pulley............

[lead chucker]

Hmmm a pulley with a 600mm rig body and a 400mm hook snood works well if fish is heavier than lead, the lead pulls up out of way on top swivel keeping out the way and fish comes out last sliding through the kelp, don't get last post??

[Deans]

weight counts for nothing when riving through kelp?

[lead chucker]

well weight will hit a snag on any rig, but see your point

[GEORDIE H]

Pulley rig best thing since sliced bread good all rounder( heavy ground/clean ground/mixed ground/) I also use a double pulley rig for distance work while scratching.
Both baits clipped down on one baitclip.
These rigs used to be called self hookers + thats what they are gives the fish time to consume the bait without resistance.
Just my opinion i cant fault them in 35 years of match fishing + pleasure.