Amateur hour again....

[berwick]

Need some advice about a problem I am having since I started using a multiplier reel.

When fishing from high rock marks and cliffs into deepish waters I have an issue that when I cast off with the multi and have to stop it with my thumb as the lead hits the water to stop the dreaded overrun. In doing so because I am elevated above the lead this seems to cause an in swing motion as the lead settles towards the bottom that causes me to lose considerable distance in cast.

The line I use is 40lbs straight through and I am not sure if this heavy line and the weight (7-8oz) stopping and struggling to get going again (would get going easier with a lighter line?) is a contributing factor.

It isn't the worst problem as I seldom fish at range with this set up but at the times I do it is slightly annoying. No doubt an amateur mistake on my behalf, any advice or anyone else have this problem?

[david.northeast]

When the lead hits the water let your thumb off the spool again to allow the lead to free fall to the bottom

[g-force]

Stop the spool as you're doing when it hits the water, but immediately let it go again and it'll slowly freespool as the lead sinks to the bottom - then it won't swing back towards you as it sinks. Not important where the water's not too deep, but useful up the likes of Eyemouth / St Abbs etc where you don't want to chuck very far anyway or you'll be casting over the fish.

Aha! David beat me to it lol

Gary

[Juliogeordio]

As above from the lads mate, you don't need to put your thumb straight on the spool and stop it spinning totally, just apply enough pressure and quickly take the pressure off again to allow it to sink in a controlled manner. This should take you less than a second. It won't cost you any distance but may take you a little while to get the hang of it. Stick with it though

[BGEE]

Need some advice about a problem I am having since I started using a multiplier reel.

When fishing from high rock marks and cliffs into deepish waters I have an issue that when I cast off with the multi and have to stop it with my thumb as the lead hits the water to stop the dreaded overrun. In doing so because I am elevated above the lead this seems to cause an in swing motion as the lead settles towards the bottom that causes me to lose considerable distance in cast.

The line I use is 40lbs straight through and I am not sure if this heavy line and the weight (7-8oz) stopping and struggling to get going again (would get going easier with a lighter line?) is a contributing factor.

It isn't the worst problem as I seldom fish at range with this set up but at the times I do it is slightly annoying. No doubt an amateur mistake on my behalf, any advice or anyone else have this problem?

Correct me if I am wrong but I always thought it best to use 10lb of line for every ounce of weight, so 40 LB line for a 7-8 oz weight could be rather dangerous Bob

[Joe-m]

That's good advice given above but don't be to worried about it looks a long way when the lead is in the air to the point of impact but as the line sinks the distance look drastically reduced because you are so high up and deep water, when you beach fishing the line doesn't enter the water where you cast seen plenty of fish caught off clifftops when it looks like the line is very close in if it distance you want I would go down to 20lb with a 60lb leader long enough to reach the bottom of the cliffs for lifting fish especially if you're fishing clean ground because even if you take your thumb of the reel the heavy line is going to put some drag on the weight till it hits the sea bed but as I said if you fishing deep water the fish are probably close in

[Juliogeordio]

Correct me if I am wrong but I always thought it best to use 10lb of line for every ounce of weight, so 40 LB line for a 7-8 oz weight could be rather dangerous Bob

If your fishing cliffs and only making short lobs into the water then 30-40lb line straight through is more than enough mate. Shock leaders etc are normal for the lads who put power into casting but the guys who rock or cliff fish tend to stick with 30-40 line only. Very little chance of the line snapping unless your hitting it hard, which they don't. Usually go with 10lb of shock leader per 1oz casting weight ie: 6oz weight should be at least 60lb shock leader.... You won't go far wrong with that mate

[berwick]

As always thanks for the replies lads.

Thinking about it it is a combo of keeping my thumb on the spool slightly too long and a bit of drag from heavy line. As mentioned most of my fishing is close range so it is never much of a problem. I use 40lbs line straight through as its very rough ground and kelpy in a lot of areas I fish plus getting the fish up to elevated positions.

I know the book says 10lbs - 1oz for shock leaders and safety first but I dont like shock leaders for the rocks. I am not convinced at how much stick the leader knot can take before they give out. Plus how many of us mere mortals could snap 40lbs line with an 8oz sinker during an overhead cast. Not me I can tell you that